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In Reply to: RE: well that was interesting. .. posted by watts on January 15, 2017 at 17:56:32
Tweeters back on the outside. Maybe I did know what I was doing 4 years ago :)
Especially with this new DAC I have, it is a little hotter than the Wyred it replaced, I found the tweeters on the inside a little too much, and the upper bass lost a little oomph. I tried moving them back to about 40 inches from the back wall; a little better, but not good enough.
Tweeters back on the outside seems to tame them a little and the upper bass seems more full and appropriate; but maybe that is just me because that is what I have been used to for a while. All I can say is to my ears, with this gear in this room, tweeters on the outside is the way to go. They are 52" from the back wall. I have had to listen to Emerson Lake and Palmer every few days since Greg's passing. RIP. My thanks to the producers who made it sound so awesome.
Still have not had the treble drop out reappear; gremlins?
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So my Maggie 3.6 are farther apart..
I also am about 40" from back wall. and only 2ft from sides..
So the speakers are positioned so the tweets are in he same location as if tweets out.
This moves the woofers closer to the side walls. and opens the space between... For the same image size.
I found it damn near impossible to solder anything inside my Magnepan II. Once a wire came loose, It seemed like I could fix it for a year, then it would fail again. Period.
Well, lets hope that was it and whatever was dislodged before is now jarred into the correct position and stays there till the end of time.
If you were used to tweeters out then when setting up with tweeters in you would want to maximize the distance between the tweeters to make it roughly the same as it was with the outsies. If that results in proximity to the sidewalls then you can use that to your advantage to warm up the tonal balance with wall loading.
I don't remember you having a particularly long narrow room but on the long wall in such rooms it is usually far better to place the tweeters out. They want to be ~36" from the sidewalls and care little whether the rest of the speaker or just air stand between them and the sidewall. Don't ask me why, I never managed to figure that one out.
At the moment, with the tweeters on the outsides, the tweeters are 16" from the side walls (the long wall). The speakers are about 12" further apart than I had them before trying them on the inside; sound okay for now.
36" from the sidewalls in this 126" wide room means the insides of the speakers would only be 14" apart in the centres. I haven't tried it, but I would have to move the amps...
I didn't realize the room was so narrow so don't bother with my suggestion and I doubt outsies are going to do better than insies in this context. If you setup absorption on the sidewalls by the tweeter then the tweeter out setup might work with such proximity to the side walls, otherwise I am very skeptical of the SQ potential with tweeters out..
Edits: 01/17/17
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