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In Reply to: RE: The Rooze posted by ahendler on September 29, 2011 at 11:47:39
Yep you are right. If the subs are separate then no need to mess with them.
Thanks for trying the setup. There seems to be a punditry here that has a "canned" setup investment and poo poos all kind of things that are outside of their norm.
It is sad because there is more magic in those maggies with a little experimentation. The "one size fits all" mentality is to be avoided, even in this case the setup doesnt work for one of Josh's rooms, but you cant dismiss something based on someone else's results.
That is the problem, everyone seems to forget that all of audio is in the context of a system, including the room. Very hard to draw general rules given the system nature of audio. Guidelines sure, but some inmates make it sound like there is ONLY one way to do things. The Rooze will open your eyes to how that is not true...many paths indeed.
No one here remembers the bending of our minds
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Particularly when the results were amazing in another of Josh's rooms! (But not the one he can use for a listening room, alas. It would a lot better for a conventional setup too, bigger, symmetrical, rectangular, and with the mantle on the side.)
I'm glad to see more people trying this, when I stumbled on it I think you were the only who tried it. I was just fooling around, I wanted to see if the Monsoons would work as near field monitors and then as a lark I turned them on edge to put myself in the dipole null. It never occurred to me that it would actually sound good, or that anyone had actually tried it. I was blown away. I'd love to find a better way to accomplish the same effect, one that would work in more rooms and maybe not rely on reflections that can color the sound.
Large birch ply boards at the reflection spots...figure it has to be a large reflective surface to allow reflection of the broad beam.
Just thinking of the possibilities for my room. May cover the critical bad areas and make it work. I guess one can paint the panels and stick them to the walls to minimize space loss.
Wonder if someone else could try it with the Tympanis? I don't have any reason to suppose it wouldn't work, but it would be great if you could get some feedback before going to that effort.
Another thing you could do is get some of the pink styro insulation sheets at Home Depot and try it with those before committing. Or maybe some foam core at an art supply house.
Reflections are going to be going all the way down to 20 Hz, though at the long wavelengths, I don't think clutter is going to matter much, since the waves will just diffract around it. It would be interesting to know just how big the reflectors have to be.
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