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It's clear that racism is alive and well among some American Negros.I got into an elevator at a prominent downtown L.A. hotel at the wrong time.
The other two occupants were both Negros. One was a professional hotel valet supervisor. The other was, um, wasn't. He was acting like a petulent child. "F", "F", "F", dominated his speaking abilities. "Uncle Tom", "racist against your own people", and other things. I didn't get involved, but was ready if he made a move.
What was the problem? Glad you asked.
Turns out, the guy wanted to print some stuff on a hotel computer, but he wasn't a hotel guest, and was told he couldn't. So he went ballistic.
There is something seriously wrong among some Negroid people. I see this sort of behavior, although not as overt, pretty regularly. Who was the "actress" who recently went off to a police officer and started yapping at him about being Negro?
Can't we all just get along? Dr. MLK is turning in his grave.
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Gee Whiz.
You go on a racist trolling expedition using the the word "negros" and you don't even know how to spell it. It reminds me of when I see the word "fagitt" written on restroom walls.
Learn to spell before you go around touting your alleged superiority.
"Learn to spell before you go around touting your alleged superiority. "Yes, I left out the "e" every time! At least I can't claim they were typoes. ;) But I did capitalize the word, which, I think, is correct. So, give me some points for that. In my defense, it's not a word that I use very often, especially in the plural, unlike audio-related words which are commonly mispelled by posters on an audio forum. I actually read a post some time back, here or elsewhere, where the poster wrote "real-to-real" instead of "reel-to-reel"! And don't even get me started on the use of the word "base" instead of "bass" and other such glaring errors!
On to your comment "a racist trolling expedition"...
This makes no sense. How was I racist? The idiot Negro in the elevator was the racist, and the professional Negro wasn't. This was racist behavior WITHIN a race, at a time when we're constantly told it's whites vs blacks. Don't you get that?! Don't you think it's useful to recognize that?!
What expedition? I was relating a racist incident between two Negroes (sp?) who were obviously on "different pages" societally. Is that "off limits" to you? Does that not fit into your societal perspective?
Further, I've replied to criticism and disagreement in this thread.
How does any of that make me a troll? People sometimes use the word "troll" when they don't have anything other than to resort to name-calling. Given that you joined the Audio Asylum a month ago, and I have several thousand posts over several years, I hardly think you're in a position to call me a troll.
Lastly, you'll have to explain your comment about me "touting alledged superiority". That's a puzzlement and just plain bullshit, 'cause I don't remember saying anything remotely like "I'm superior" or implying such. Please explain. Or, maybe it was just a troll-ish jab from you.
It would not surprise me if your agitated and negative reply is more of a statement that I've ruffled your ideologically-motivated feathers and nothing else. Whether if so or if not, make your opposing case to my initial observations, and then we may be able to converse.
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As evidenced in Ferguson, being able to flaunt the rules, bully and steal from those weaker than them, physically attack authority figures when told to follow the laws that apply to everyone (else, it seems), and riot en mass and loot neighborhood business when said perp is killed when attacking the police.So, this is the "great Society" that Johnson envisioned?
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True, I should have specified that a good many took advantage of the opportunities that were offered them but a goodly, vocal number seem to be affected by that "black privilege" syndrome. Strangely, they seem to be grouped in population centers and many weren't even born when this initiative was started.Those that took advantage got out of Dodge at the first opportunity and blended in quite successfully with middle class America.
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C'mon, the negroes have it better than ever. First off they have a black president. They get paid millions shoving a ball through a hope. They make money in the music Industry and can't plan an Instrument. The woman singers make millions shaking their bootys. Most of the rappers are from street gangs or ex-cons. The black man has it great in this country. You don't see them running back to Africa.
The people you really need to worry about are the Latinos. They are having babies like rabbits. They say in 20 years they will be 50 percent of the u.s. Population. There are already 50 million Spanish speaking people in the US. Currently in Los Angeles they are 53 percent of the population.
... Nothing you post surprises me.
This whole thread should be flushed to the cesspit where it belongs.
Smile
Sox
I didn't start this thread bro.
Yeah Sux, we know there aren't any racists down under! You have your rednecks to. I just don't know what you call them.
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... With a panache for kiddy porn.
Smile
Sox
"Jackass!"
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
...please.
People think you're an idiot - don't give them so much evidence.
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Youngsters raised on movies like The Untouchables have a special vocabulary for use everywhere including the elevators which is part of the profit reaping from filth and the consequent behavior modification orchestrated by Hollywood. It affects all races and nationalities.
Bill
I had negros curse at me and say they were going to kill me, they called me "whitey", and they were really pissed off.
Just because I have a dress shirt on doesn't mean I am out to get them. I don't know the mentality of the negro, it is a sad state not all negroes are the same, there are many a good negro, I think you are referring to the dismantled portion of that race, think about it, 5th grade education when you are 30, it is a sad thing and the welfare and war on poverty made it worse with the entitlement ideas programmed into that portion of society.
the way I was raised was to work for what you got. reap what you sow.
whatever that's my opinion it is sad to see black america turn into trash, there's already white trash, meth and etc...
fucked up society. the only salvation you have is to be armed and to watch your back and front.
At lunch, sitting on the bench, this black kid in Junior High would come up to us new student, not black kids and say:
"Your money or your life!!!"
I'd honestly reply "Don't have any money..."
Kid would move to the guy next to me on the bench :"Your money or your life!"
Kid would reply the same, even the black kids!
Etc., etc. etc.
I got over it after a few days.
Good luck with YOUR problem, which apparently YOU'LL never get over.
Sounds like you're drunk again...
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
ok, nice cat!
That's hardcore dude! Now I see why you always show cats.
Well, IF I ever decide to share any actual SERIOUS stories from my checkered past on a board
that includes a putz like you, I won't attach a cat picture so as not to further confuse you.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
safety nets are hardly "frightened" into pulling themselves up by their bootstraps and/or curbing reproduction.
Another myth, and one of which I'm frankly tired...of.
once you realize everyone is genetically different you'll have a clue
we are not all equal.
I myself am a hybrid alien / human. do you know how hard it is dealing with regular humans?
I don't even know where to start, other than to say I'm disappointed. Black America is turing into trash? Really? Because poor old Bullethead was threatened a few times while wearing a nice shirt?
I lived in Washington Heights for 2 years. I too was harassed a few times by black people in those 2 years. I was also accused of not really living there by NYC police who were certain I had walked over the bridge from Fort Lee to buy drugs. That was over 20 years ago, and, surprise, surprise, there are still bad black people and bad white people.
Some human beings are trash, but humankind is neither trash nor turning into trash, regardless of race or ethnicity.
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"If you are the owner of a new stereophonic system, this record will play with even more brilliant true-to-life fidelity. In short, you can purchase this record with no fear of its becoming obsolete in the future."
let me be more broad, mankind is trash. humans are a cancer of the world in general.
better?
The black couple we had over this afternoon were class people. Audiophile (was he) churchgoer was she, positive people were they. Didn't hear a negative word from either of them and, I'll bet they had stories they could tell.....
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"E burres stigano"
just leave it at that.
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"E burres stigano"
... But I best keep it to myself.
Smile
Sox
"This post will disappear in 5, 4, 3,..."Stop it.
And, TIA.
Warmest
Tim Bailey
Skeptical Measurer & Audio Scrounger
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...like Jon Stewart asked Bill O'Reilley this week, "Would you admit there is white privelege?"
He did, how about you?
If I may paraphrase.
"Trying is the first step towards failure."
Homer Simpson
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let it stay a while for all to see.
ET
I would rather know up front someone I know or associate with is a bigot or racist then I know where they are coming from and I'll know how to deal with them.
"Trying is the first step towards failure."
Homer Simpson
HFS!, that is one of the most poorly recorded good songs I have ever heard.
Yet, there's a certain "earthi-ness" to it.
Anyway, now I gotta put on some Marvin Gaye to clear my head. Go ahead, call me old school.
Hahahaha!
The title is kinda odd. The lyrics make no reference to the title. In fact the same tune is released under a different name. See it below.
I'll throw an olive branch at you because I believe in that but what you did was fucked up. We're all only human. We can only hope to do better next time regardless of how we did before............ let he within something or other cast the first what not
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I will not be casting any "what nots". My wife would be furious.
I don't know what you're referring to that was "f'd up". I related a true event and exchange between two people, and observed that one of them was clearly racist and he wasn't white. That's all.
"I related a true event and exchange between two people, and observed that one of them was clearly racist and he wasn't white. That's all."
Uh huh. Of course that was not all you did. You also related the following indictment:
"There is something seriously wrong among some Negroid people. I see this sort of behavior, although not as overt, pretty regularly. Who was the "actress" who recently went off to a police officer and started yapping at him about being Negro?"
Putting aside for a moment the extent to which such a conclusion is defensible in and of itself, you knew full well that your choice of words and broad brush conclusion would succeed in generating indignation on this forum, and that you could then inflame that indignation with disingenuous deflections and denials.
That's what trolls like you do. You choose your audience, slip in some comments you know will inflame that audience, and then you fan the flames while proclaiming your innocence. You even name drop, thus implying that you're not such a bad guy if you're friends with a celebrity among audiophiles, and even perhaps that said celebrity shares your views.
Congratulations on a job well done.
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"If you are the owner of a new stereophonic system, this record will play with even more brilliant true-to-life fidelity. In short, you can purchase this record with no fear of its becoming obsolete in the future."
Golly, Josh. Buddy, fellow forum inmate, relax.
I'm not a troll, as you can see by my thousands of posts here. I ask questions, answer questions, offer advice, make comments and criticize. What, of that, qualifies me as a troll? Then, we are ALL trolls.
I think your reaction is more appropriate for a Packers/Bears argument than a discussion of racism among blacks toward other blacks or toward "white people". This is part of the sociological problem we have in America - a person is excoriated for making a legitimate observation and comment if it doesn't agree with a certain group's position on the topic.
Btw, the actress to whom I referred earlier is Daniele Watts. She went off into race territory with ZERO provocation.
"thus implying that you're not such a bad guy if you're friends with a celebrity among audiophiles, and even perhaps that said celebrity shares your views."
Wrong, and wrong, and insinuation, which is also wrong.
As someone here recently wrote, "lighten up, Francis".
:)
...you are are right wing troll who loves to incite people here.
Most of your posts don't last more than 24 hours.
"you are are right wing troll"
Hey, c'mon man. That's a thread-killer.
And what's with the "are are"? Shouldn't it be "are, are, are"? ;)
You're a fun guy (not to be confused with a mushroom ,er, fungi - are, are, are), so why the an-your-mosity?
Btw, tonight, it's middle-of-the-road Cabernet with chicken and asparagus.
:)
(or: some folks go through life never figuring much out)
To more accurately reflect your ignorance.
That's assuming you are the racist old white guy you sure sound like.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
a grand jury in Ferguson Missouri has interviewed at least 6 African-American eyewitnesses who corroborate Officer Darren Wilson's account that Michael Brown was attacking him when the shooting occurred. The St. Louis Post Dispatch reports that the witnesses won't come forward publicly for fear of their personal safety.
Both newspapers also report that the forensic evidence largely supports Officer Wilson's account.
Yet last evening on my television screen I watched as two African-American pastors, Rev. Dr. Robert Scott and Bishop Geoffrey Dudley, said that even if the newspaper reporting proves accurate, and as a result Officer Wilson is not indicted, they will not accept the fact that justice was served.
It’s been reported that Ferguson schools have already decided to close after the grand jury goes public with its findings as public officials brace for more rioting.
Apparently the only way to avoid rioting and bloodshed is to find Officer Wilson guilty. That’s the sort of bifurcated country we live in today.
Getting off-topic, but you make a good point.
"It's been reported that Ferguson schools have already decided to close after the grand jury goes public with its findings as public officials brace for more rioting."
It would seem to make sense to keep the kids in school, continuing their education, rather than letting them out on the streets during such a volatile time. Closing the schools also sends the wrong message to the youth.
Oh, wait, that would make sense. Never mind.
;)
...from the grand jury?Pretty sleazy, I'd say.
Shouldn't the leaker be prosecuted?
Would you feel differently if they supported Brown's version?
Not having read the article, I can understand one shot close up if Brown went for his gun - but what about the other shots from a distance? How are they justified?
The officers in the Rodney King trial in Simi Valley were found innocent resulting in the LA riots - did you support that verdict?
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“How do you feel about the leaks from the grand jury?
“Pretty sleazy, I'd say.”
I’m shocked! Shocked! to learn that sleaze has crept into our legal system.
Seriously, if the leaks were intended to diffuse what authorities view as a potentially explosive situation then it's understandable. Like it or not leaks have been a part of our legal/political system for decades.
"Shouldn't the leaker be prosecuted?”
Are you suggesting every leaker in every situation be prosecuted or just those leakers you disapprove of? What’s your position concerning those who leaked sensitive information during the Bush administration?
“Would you feel differently if they supported Brown's version?”
That is a question unbecoming of a decent human being.
“Not having read the article, I can understand one shot close up if Brown went for his gun - but what about the other shots from a distance? How are they justified?”
That has been my problem with this case from the get-go. I’ve tried to put myself in Officer Wilson’s shoes, which is, of course, impossible. Nevertheless, I can see myself shooting my assailant 3 or 4 times, but not 11 times as has been reported. But I wasn’t there and neither were you.
Perhaps this was the first time Office Wilson drew his gun in the line of duty and he panicked. In which case we are left with this assessment: Officer Wilson was justified in firing on his assailant but he fired too many times.
“The officers in the Rodney King trial in Simi Valley were found innocent resulting in the LA riots - did you support that verdict?”
I support justice being served regardless of the potential consequences. To act otherwise cedes control of our justice system to mob rule. And you?
It’s instructive to note that when it comes to verdicts, we don’t fear riots from any racial or ethnic group except African-Americans. And the two pastors I cited in my original post are indicative of what’s wrong with leaders in the black community. Why aren’t they taking steps to calm what is a potentially explosive situation? As one commentator noted, if these two men of God were presented with a high def DVD showing Michael Brown attacking Officer Wilson they would still not be convinced of Wilson's innocence. Not exactly in the mold of Martin Luther King are they?
...the Ferguson police department is 95% white in a town about 75% black.
Same all over the country - blacks ghettoed (history of red-lining) and are racially profiled - stopped in cars and walking down the street (like Brown) just for being black.
That's what the protesters and rioters are railing against - an unjust system rather than one event.
Remember the LA PD scandal and shake-up after the riots?
...a nouveau canard of the left designed to exploit the white guilt of gullible progressives such as yourself.
Charles Cooke points out that "white privilege" is so pervasive that it can be used to explain pretty much any available scenario. Two white kids shoot up a school, white privilege is to blame. A half-Asian-half-white man shoots up a town, white privilege is to blame. An African-American fellow opens fire at a military installation, white privilege is to blame. Half-Asians are viewed as “white” by the media; likewise half-Hispanics. But our biracial president is a “black man in the White House.”
And now the privilege canard has been expanded to include more than race. Perhaps Noah Rothman said it best, “Your privilege, which you will be reminded to ‘check’ repeatedly by those adherents to the faith, centers on the subjectively defined benefits associated with your gender, age, religion, physical appearance, full use of all or some extremities, height, race, skin tone (not to be confused with race), and sexuality. And that is a truncated list of the ever-expanding catalogue of ‘privileges’ one might wield.
“First coined in 1988 by social justice activist Peggy McIntosh, the term has become a religion for a sect of politically correct college students and left-of-center bloggers. But the speed with which the movement caught on and was appropriated by everyone who could articulate a tenuous claim to adversity appears to already have reached the point of implosion.”
Rothman traces the catalyst for the implosion of this canard to a Princeton student, Tal Fortgang, who wrote a now famous essay expressing his misgivings with his fellow students for claiming his circumstances of birth, rather than his efforts, was the reason for his success.
Rothman: “Fortgang noted that his supposed fortunes of birth also include two Jewish grandparents who escaped Nazi-occupied Poland after enduring a ‘death march’ into Bergen-Belsen. Unlike the privilege-mongers he is surrounded by, his point in defining his background was not to elicit (or demand) sympathy, but to demonstrate that he and his relatives preferred their own ingenuity and personal fortitude to pity.”
But enough of that. Your mistake is to conflate “white privilege” with gross prejudice regarding the Ferguson police department’s hiring practices. The question arises: Why did the black community of Ferguson tolerate such a distasteful practice for decades?
Why didn’t the good citizens of Ferguson bring this blatant bigotry to the attention of the statewide media or even the major media? The brave freedom fighters who took to the streets of Selma during the 1960s would not have tolerated such injustice for so long. One is left to conclude that the racial composition of the police department just didn’t matter much to the citizens of Ferguson. Otherwise they would have taken steps to correct the problem and kept at it until it was corrected.
It would not have taken much effort to get Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton or others in the civil rights movement to give this intolerable situation some air time. Such a situation would have been perfect for a 60 Minutes segment. This subject could have been dealt with in a civil, articulate manner and the black community would have benefited.
But no, none of this was brought to our attention until a black teenager was shot by a white cop. Then everything became sensationalized. And as we learned, the vast majority of Ferguson rioters who were jailed did not even reside in the state of Missouri. And so another faux riot was orchestrated giving out of state thugs an excuse to loot as local citizens watched their town destroyed. Brilliant.
...too bad you have no thoughts but have to rely on other's opinions.
White privilege is based on the white upper class making all of the rules in our society - since it began and still today.
It serves to keep others oppressed and in lower positions in our society.
There are success stories where some are able to break through and are successful in spite of the oppression which people like your sources use to deny white privilege exists.
Minorities, women, the disabled, non-Christians, those with other sexual preferences have had to fight hard for their rights against this oppression to achieve what little equality they have today.
Perhaps you should take a college level course on social justice to see the errors of your sources and learn about white privilege, which you seem to wallow in.
now you know how to spell privilege. ~:)
"too bad you have no thoughts but have to rely on other's opinions."
Reading the various opinions of others is how one learns to think critically. You should try it, instead of reciting left-wing talking points.
...I see you don't know critical thinking from plagiarism
Hint: they are not the same.
And total ignorance on social justice.
Seriously, look it up.
The KKK and the democrats! How cool is that.
the Democrats were the planter class, the KKK was the terrorist arm of the Democratic party. Possibly still is, using the masses for their own agenda.
I'll have no part of it, I am beyond all of it.
That's numbingly convoluted and ridiculously political, leaving us with the basic conclusion
that racism is so incorrect and so damaging at levels we can't even conceive to perceive.
Racism will never disappear; just continue to morph into more ugly, mind boggling atrocities.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
It should be noted, for the larger picture, that you live in the SF Bay area, so, there's that for the rest us to keep in mind.
;)
...or in the South and a card-carrying member of the Tea Party, formed by racists to protest a black being elected president.
(now with geographical stereotypes haphazardly tossed in) one is left to only chuckle.
And I live in San Francisco proper, which IS the larger picture.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" -Michael McClure
Hey, I was just in San Fran, hanging out with my friend John Curl. We took a drive over the Bay Bridge to SF, past Golden Gate Park, over to the ocean, and back via Chinatown. I really liked the whole area! Although, I suspect there are parts which aren't quite so scenic.:)
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Not everyone can live in Texas.
Hahahaha!
But a lot of people want to!
:)
I hear that Austin is quite popular.
..."Negro, Negroid people"?
Most all prefer the term Black or African-American.
Where have you been for the past 50 years.
Racism is also alive among the whitey crackers for sure.
Hahaha!Yeah, I know. Colloquial terms du jour are more commonplace and often more acceptable, but I prefer to use correct technical terms when writing, so as not to offend anyone.
Edit: Now I have to ask: Of all the stuff in my original post, THAT'S what you focussed on?!
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We focused on you being you. The Negro thing was the most in your face other than judging a whole race on the behavior of one or two people. Only idiots do that..........oh right!And what you saw is almost always due to economic issues not race. I've seen people of all races act similarly and it almost always (there are exceptions to anything like educated middle class people calling themselves Christians and yet they will still kill doctors) a class issue. Lower class poor people raised by the same that are poorly educated.
Your thread should be called racist observations. Are they based in fear , anger, jealousy or what?ET
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"judging a whole race"You must've missed the words "some American".
And, the valet supervisor, who was also Negro, was quite impressive with his restraint and professionalism in responding to the moron. We talked later, and that's when he filled me in on the back story. Come to think of it, I should send a note to the hotel general manager and let him/her know that they've got a good guy working there.
To all here, I was simply making an observation of a situation which epitomizes one of the sad/bad attitudes which America is still faced with, fifty years after Dr. MLK.
There is nothing, zero, nada, derogatory about the word "Negro" or "Negroid". It's basic terminology. Look it up. On the other hand, I dislike the use of slang terms such as "African-American", "black", "cracker", "whitey" and "old white guy".
:)
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... how do you feel about the other correct technical term, bigoted ass?
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