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In Reply to: RE: Esoteric DV-60 vs. SCD-1 with VSEI mods posted by Karltoo on March 26, 2009 at 11:42:50
Karl,
I have many times suggested the SCD-777ES over the SCD-1 for reasons of cost. They are indentical under their skins and sound the same.
But yes, the SCD-777ES can be had for around 30% less than it's fancy looking brother, and they both Upgrade the same.
Depends if the looks are worth the extra $$...
Regards, Allen (Vacuum State)
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Allen,
How does a modified unit perform on Red Book CD? Does the SCD-777ES & SCD-1 convert the PCM Signal to DSD? What Gives can you provide me with some info. I am thinking of purchasing a SCD-777es and having it upgraded, but I would also like to have a reference quality player for the Red Book CD format.
thanks,
Johnny
Most reorts we get say the RBCD performance is improved EVEN more than the SACD performance.
You would have to read some of the reviews on our website, and look for the many reviews here on HiRez forum.
No, they do not convert the RBCD PCM signal to pure DSD, but they do convert it to bitstream, which is sort of the same thing, just not a 2.8MHz. Our Upgrades work on the complete signalpath, so both SACD and RBCD are greatly improved.
I believe an Upgraded SCD-1 or (better still) a SCD-777ES is the best sounding player I have heard, and certainly the best sonic hit for the $$ available.
The only better RBCD sound Ihave heard is from an equally Upgraded Esoteric DV-50 we did for the president of Gensisi Speakers, but it's SACD performance wasn't as good as the SONY. They both have excellent transports and great engineering, I put that difference down to the design philosophy, the Esoteric using a chip set thathas PCM as the focus, with DSD/SACD as a sideline. The SONYs are SACD forcussed.
Regards, Allen (Vacuum State)
Allen, have you heard Tim de Paravicini's EAR Acute tubed RBCD player with upsampling? I have a 777ES I bought new when the price dropped to $1500 with Level 6+ balanced outputs which I listen to SACD on. I intend on asking Warren to equip mine with the UBER Clock. The "Acute" is a totally redesigned top of the line Arcam player. Is the UBER Clock universal and able to be used with multiple players?
> > have you heard Tim de Paravicini's EAR Acute tubed RBCD player with upsampling?
No, never had the chance. I guess it will be in the Munich Hi-End show next month.
> > I have a 777ES I bought new when the price dropped to $1500 with Level 6+ balanced outputs which I listen to SACD on. I intend on asking Warren to equip mine with the UBER Clock < <
That will make a wonderful improvement.
> > The "Acute" is a totally redesigned top of the line Arcam player. Is the UBER Clock universal and able to be used with multiple players? < <
If they need the same oscillator frequency, then yes. If they need different oscillator frequencies, then it would require quite a bit of messing around to change the oscillator frequency. Your big SONY needs a 45MHz frequency, I have no idea of what the ARCAM needs.
Regards, Allen (Vacuum State)
Thanks for the info Allen. I would not still own my 777 if it wasn't for your mods.
Dr. Roberts
Just wait till you get the UberClock...!
Regards, Allen (Vacuum State)
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