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In Reply to: RE: help finding best mics in the $50 range posted by thump on January 06, 2017 at 18:32:16
Microphones happen to be one of my favorite areas of audio. So...On the one hand, you scorn poor sound on videos. On the other hand, you expect to make a good (better) recording with a $50 microphone in a venue which you haven't described and with an unknown setup. Have I got that right?
Next, you mention the "French style" X/Y. I don't know what's "French" about X/Y, but ORTF is.
But let's move on to "high SPLs" and bass and low distortion. You are kidding yourself if think that's going to happen with a $50 mic. Sure, you might be able to find some used E-V 635As or AKG D200Es, etc. in that price range, but for new mics? - Ha!
For high quality sound, I'm partial to some AKG, Audio-Technica, DPA, Rode, Royer, Sennheiser, Shure and Schoeps models, any of which will set you back $300 to $1,800 each.
Did I neglect Neumann? Huh. ;)
I would suggest that you think about using your PZMs for the time being.
You're welcome.
:)
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QUOTE: On the one hand, you scorn poor sound on videos. On the other hand, you expect to make a good (better) recording with a $50 microphone in a venue which you haven't described and with an unknown setup. Have I got that right?yes, you have that right, and YES, a good pair of $50 mics will walk all over cheap and cheesy camcorder mics any day. the sampson i got with my headphones for $50 TOTAL was a high fidelity monster whose ONLY shortcoming was a slightly high noise level, but other than that, it's ease, fidelity and low level detail retrieval were awe inspiring and able to humble my $200 each PZMs, so yeah... $50 giant killers exist
the "venue" will be the great anechoic outdoors both near field and at a distance where low level detail retrieval is needed and a dynamic mic is useless
besides using lower quality mics (i'm talking entry level consumer gear) if a camera even does stereo, it's with close spaced mics, just like digital recorders like zooms. i'm looking to simulate binaural for a more accurate sounding headphone experience, but binaural also translates extremely well to speakers too.
QUOTE: Next, you mention the "French style" X/Y. I don't know what's "French" about X/Y, but ORTF is.
yes, i meant ORTF, which is the FRENCH broadcast version of X/Y. there's also a norwegian (NOS) version that uses 90 degrees (vs 110 degrees) and wider spacing not to mention the THIRD version that is more commonly associated with X/Y where the capsules intersect in the center more like side address miking. i just couldn't remember the letters, so i called it french instead.
QUOTE: I would suggest that you think about using your PZMs for the time being.
sure, when i have a couple thousand in travel & shipping fare for everything i have stored a few states away. if i had my PZMs, i wouldn't even be asking this question.
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Heroic vocals time and again. Don't use it as much as I used to these days, though. Nor my Sanken clip mics.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
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techno artist and fans should NEVER be allowed to use the word FUNKY
EVER!!!!
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