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In Reply to: RE: Leo Beranek, Acoustics Designer and Internet Pioneer, Dies at 102 posted by RGA on October 18, 2016 at 23:33:57
One of my favorite quotes:
It has been remarked that if one selects his own components,
builds his own enclosure and is convinced he has made a wise
choice of design, then his own loudspeaker sounds better to
him than does anyone else's loudspeaker. In this case, the
frequency response of the loudspeaker seems to play only a
minor part in forming a person's opinion.
-L.L. Beranek, Acoustics [McGraw-Hill, New York, 1954], p.208
Don't believe everything you think.
- Thomas E. Kida
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Yes, I love that quote. I have stated several times - I call it the Tweaker's Allegory of the Cave: "The belief of the the illusion of stereo reproduction depends greatly on the confidence that you have in your system."
The fact that stereo reproduction (at least when the goal the recreation of a live event in our living rooom) is always an illusion, created by flawed signals, engineered by artists in often effects the observations and behavior of even the most knowledgable of us.
"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat" - Confucius
... that it's a zero-sum game:
X + Y = Z.
X is what the system brings
Y is what the mind fills in
Z is Music
The trick is that we can make Y whatever it needs to be.
Don't believe everything you think.
- Thomas E. Kida
filling in the same old stuff.
I think we tend to attempt to change the sound of our systems because of this.
Either the brain wants a new puzzle or some strange aspect of perception no longer allows the existing correction algorithm to satisfy ...
Who knows?
"The fact that stereo reproduction (at least when the goal the recreation of a live event in our living rooom) is always an illusion, created by flawed signals, engineered by artists in often effects the observations and behavior of even the most knowledgable of us."
The dynamic range of the best sources is one hundredth of the dynamic range of live events. No one is pretending you can reproduce live sound in the living room.
Yes Dynamics are one aspect - though the best recording microphones can match the dynamics in a live event. But the signal they record is just a part of the sound intensity radiated by the instrument - the recording engineer can do his best to make the instrument sound "real" or they can (and often) choose not to - for a completely different effect.
I can't find the post - but several years back there was a "poll" as to why us "Audio Enthusiasts" participate in this "hobby". My memory serves me poorly these days, but I think that there was less than half doing it because we wanted to create a life-like event in our listening room.
A friend of mine, Keith Yates, years ago, used to hold live events at his stereo store. He related to me more than once how many audiophiles were not interested in live music.
"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat" - Confucius
It applies to anything we make, for that matter.
I try very hard to keep this in mind but sometimes I know I fall into the trap. Sometimes might be being generous ...
Mr. Baranek will never be forgot.
A trap that is hard to not fall into. But to flip this is the guy who builds his own and it sounds better to him then anything else is he wrong for being ignorant flawed and human or smart for just enjoying the results?
Every audiophile thinks his system is great. He also thinks he only has 10% left before he enters audio nirvana. Not that there's anythung wrong with that.
I would say I think my system is good and I know it has more flaws than I have the money or time to correct and that is with the understanding that none of our systems will ever sound like a real acoustic music.
I do think my system sounds better than live amplified music.
The thing is no matter how good we think the thing sounds today we all get tired of the sound of our system eventually.
"I do think my system sounds better than live amplified music."
Bingo!
I do not think it is much of a challenge to better the sound of live amplified music.
My speakers and amps are much better.
Now when it comes to acoustic music there is no comparison.
I think you yelled BINGO even though you did not win.
For this you are disqualified!!!
as long as it works, why not enjoy it!
It is good to read that Al Gore did not invent the net afterall.
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