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In Reply to: RE: "Tone" cables often have a higher capacitance posted by Chip647 on September 30, 2016 at 05:12:00
If the expensive cables had the same capacitance, inductance and resistance as cheap cables, you could not hear the difference.
There are other factors to consider such as the conductor's composition and RFI rejection. JPS Labs cables have a very similar EDC as some Nordost cables, but sound different.
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I'd disagree about the RFI rejection. Unless, of course, you have evidence. Then, I'd have to agree.
Until then, I'm solidly taking the stance that it is the connector, and the cable's connection to the connector, that makes an audible difference.
:)
Of all the parts, I think the connector is the least of the important variables.
True a cheap POS connector is not good, but with any of many good RCA...
I like Tiffany style RCA. With a compression created joint for ground, and a solder hot.
As for XLR, the upgrades are almost entirely cosmetic.
True you can get silver pins, etc.. but the basic $3 XLR is always good.
XLR type connector is a great basic way of connecting cables.
Anyway, I find the insulation is very important. Look at Kimber Hero, The 'extra' strong bass is ENTIRELY the insulation. Even Kimber says so.
The same wire, same weave, different insulation.. not as much bass.
The gauge of the wire matters some.
The purity of the wire too.
It all matters..
Also the quality of the system they are on. And the ability of the listener to hear. Plus variables hard to pinpoint, b=make one wire good here, not good there.
Back when I had lesser equipment, I really could not hear differences in wires I now can easily hear on my much better setup.
Anyway, all I can write is that "if you think you KNOW why wires are what they are and why they sound a certain way.. Then you are fooling yourself."
as a truth.
It is like the parable of the elephant. One persons 'truth' is only a part of the whole, and in other places, the same notions do not apply.
Never give up! Smelly
how many hrs are on the cable(s) in question? I will advise 400-500 hrs, at least, to really open it up. The fact that you are hearing differences on various recordings means you are on the right track (no pun)!
Have fun and Happy Listening!
So 16 days... 160 hours play time. 380 hours or so powered up.
2nd note;
Smelly- I feel your pain. Once upon a time, I believed that a high-end system would "fix" bad recordings as well. As luck will have it, only about 1% are truly bad recordings. I will take 99% into the positive any day!
Happy Listening!
I'd disagree about the RFI rejection. Unless, of course, you have evidence.
Only what I hear. And why everyone and his brother employ shielded cables of all manner.
Kimber Kable uses the wire weave to protect cables instead of shielding.
Maybe the science behind RFI rejection is like the science behind man-induced global warming. It's hard to prove that the science is there.
there are standards for RF rejection (EMC), but not commonly used with home audio.
Eupen cables
When faced with controversial subject matter I depend on spider sense to make a determination. And my spider sense also tells me that others depend on spider sense too.
my ears tell me the engineers at Belden, Eupen and a cast of thousands of others have some fundamental understanding :)
SO best to lay off the superhero power usage.
Otherwise everyone would be out showing off their superpowers, hey?
I thought this was common knowledge..
A sticky subject to be sure.
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They say the earth is round and I have a strong tendency to believe what they say. But I may never be certain that the earth is round because I have a fear of flying in outer space.
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