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In Reply to: RE: Remembering some past systems posted by Awe-d-o-file on July 19, 2016 at 11:38:11
Elementary School years:
- Dad's tape recorder, 5-tube AM table radio, record player in a box with the folding lid and speaker up front. Any larger outboard speaker I could find to replace the ones that were built-in to the equipment.
Jr High into High School years:
- RadioShack / Realistic all in one Receiver / turntable combo with Realistic bookshelf speakers. I don't recall the model numbers.
1980's:
- Used Kenwood KA-8100 (or similar) integrated amp. Don't recall the exact model but it wasn't 'high-end'. Akai cassette player. JBL L-100 Speakers.
Early 1990's:
- Sony Receiver. Sony cassette player. Sony CD player. JBL L-100 speakers.
Mid 1990's:
- Used Classe DR-10 amp. Used Classe CP-45 preamp. Used Cal Icon MKII CD player. Used Thiel CS1.5 speakers.
I was hooked after that and have had literally a dozen or more SS and tube amps over the years. Same for linestages and CDPs. My only serious speakers since the 1990's have been: Tannoy Definition D500s, Thiel CS1.5, Thiel CS2.4.
Follow Ups:
Started with a Soundesign 8 track/receiver and speakers. late'70s
Then to a Kyocera Cd player, Hafler 500 amp/pre, B&W 802 speakers(yuk). late '80s
Then Wadia DAC/transport, ARC LS7 pre, Classe DR3 amp, Thiel 2.2 speakers. '90s. Stock power cords, cheap ICs. This combo had good synergy, the speakers didn't reproduce the hiss the amp made that was apparent with more efficient speakers.
current state: oppo/modwright 105, Modwright 36.5 pre, first watt F6 amp
& the same Thiel 2.2s but with rebuilt external crossovers, new midrange drivers & external tweeters on top.
I wanted those Thiel 2.2s you have but they were out of my reach back then so I went with the smaller CS1.5.
Late 80's to early 90's:
Adcom 565 power amp
Adcom 565 pre-amp
Sony ES cd player
Cerwin Vega AT-12 speaker
Monster Cable speaker cable
Tara Labs interconnects
Late 90's to mid-2000's:
Rotel 1066 pre-amp
Rotel power amp
Sony ES cd player
Phillips sacd player
B&W 805 speaker
Transparent interconnects + speaker cables
2016- Current system building:
Thiel CS 2.4SE
Now I want your CS2.4SE's instead! I wouldn't mind the Thiel CS3.7 but they may be a little large for my office listening room. ;-)
P.S. My Thiel CS2.4 are down in the basement stored away for now. I'm using the smaller Tannoy D500's in my office.
They are very sweet guys! The CS 2.4 is still an excellent speaker, no doubt.
jhrlrd: how do you like the Thiel/Modwright/first watt synergy?
which cabling are you using. PLease post pics of your CS 2.2 speakers!
fantja: Great synergy. The 2.2s although may not be very sensitive, are an easy load, never dipping below 3.? ohms. I drove them no problem with a tube amp in triode 18w mode.
I don't have anything fancy for speaker cable. Using Morrow's better models, and have in hand a Mark Tunis pair. The speaker cables are hard wired into the external crossovers, then hard wired to the cones.
Interconnects I have a HFC CT-1E from oppo to modwright pre. Pre to amp is TEO liquid GC.
The TEO is hard to describe: It give a slightly different presentation, can't say this or that specifically is better, just everything is better.
Worth a try.
jhrlrd-
you certainly have an interesting hodge/podge of cabling. Nothing wrong w/ that- how about some pics?
Hodge podge would be the correct term fantja.
you should see the power cables: foundation research, triode wire labs, DCCA ribbon, dreamcatcher(don't know if that's the brand or model) to the power conditioner, Bybee.
Trouble is, I don't really know where to best utilize them on which component. So every once in a while I'll swap two. Usually don't hear any difference.
Ya, I want your 2.4s too...I remember always wanting something by Revox...
now Nagra.
Edits: 07/19/16
I auditioned the 1.5s and didn't like them. I brought my amp to the store which was gracious enough to let me try them on my amp. Sounded like they were suffering from over-excursion, couldn't handle the power form any of the amps I tried available at the store, so I settled on the 2.2s because they were closer sounding to the 3.6.
Truthfully, I haven't had the funds nor the desire to hump speakers in and out to audition so I still run the 2.2s. I like the fact they are coherent, just like the name suggests. I listen quiet, nearfield, and they have the correct amount of bass at any volume level.
I was disappointed when I changed the 8 buck old school Vifa midrange to a new technology expensive Scan-speak. Unless it needs tons of break-in, the old vifa is just as good. I was hoping for more depth & transparency but didn't get it. The tweeters on top however, was one of the best tweeks I've done, adding the top frequency sparkle I was needing in a dead room.
Sold my car in college to buy:
Onkyo A10 integrated amp
Phillips 877 turntables with Sonos Blue Gold cart
JVC cassette deck
Infinity Quantum Jr speakers
A year later added Harmon Kardon tuner and replaced JVC with a Nakamichi 482 cassette deck.
bigshow
"Sold my car in college to buy:..."
When you sell your car to buy audio equipment you belong in an asylum. Oh, right.
I have had so much, and honestly do not know where it went and I couldn't even name half of it. Same with cars. I remember the first one, a 1970 W34 Oldsmobile.
One system I had is worth the memory, long time ago. I had one of those silver screen projection TVs, an Advent five footer, the kind with the mirror up front. Mine had very good tubes in it and actually was aligned right. It was very rare to find one that had good convergence and geometry, but I was an expert in those. Mine worked right, and you could watch it without dimming the room.
With that was a Marantz 4270 in strapped mode feeding the fronts and a SAnsui 771 feeding the rears. They each had separate EQs. The fronts were Fisher XP7s cabinets with Utah woofers, not sure of the mids and tweets but they were dome tweeters. The rears were originally a two way system having like a six inch woofer and an eight inch passive, which I replaced with a four ohm woofer. those needed alot of EQ because the cabinet was simply too small, but with 24 dB range on the old Soundcraftsmen I made them sound good. The fronts didn't need as much EQ. The EQs were set and the tone controls on the Marantz were what was used usually.
Had also a Harmon Kardon HK 4000 VHS VCR, which is one of the very few decks that recorded hifi sound as well as linear stereo with Dolby. Then a beta, Sony SL-HFR60 and HFP100. That could be made to record three channels, one linear though. Tell you what, on that big screen you could really tell that beta was better. (in fact beta S is almost as good as DVD)
And there was a Technics three head cassette deck. I lost that gambling but I was playing it against a Pioneer RG-1.
And all of this was set up to record every which way. Beta, VHS, cassette, no problem. There were problems, I could not let other people mess with it because certain switch combinations would result in feedback and even though my speakers could take it, nobody wants to hear that. And it was LOUD.
Actually I did not have a turntable on that system. I THINK I had a Technics five disk player, and mine had a pitch control. Very rare back then. Whatever whatever 965 pretty sure.
For some reason I sold the bigscreen and that almost caused a war. It was fine, I helped them carry it into the house. Weeks later they call and say it is broke, I agree to go take a look at it and it is not where I felt it and there is a connector with a HV wire pulled out. Stuck it back in and everything was fine. I said I ain't doing it again, there was never a warranty and I did you a favor last time because you manhandled it and broke it. Call a shop.
He said "You don't know who you are talking to, I got connections in the sheriff's department" and I said "Yeah well I got connections too and can make your birth certificate invalid, come on down. I got enough firepower to take on the police, do you, asshole ? ". Like, come on down, bring your boys and we'll stack you and your ns up like cordwood. We invented killing. They think White people will get scared of them, well that one ran into the wrong motherfucker.
Anyway, the Marantz is actually in the garage, half parted out. I got an SL-HFR60 and the original HFP100. I have the HK VCR in the garage (those are actually an NEC N-965U) and am not going to fix it. I now have a Sony SLV-920, one of the few actually made by them. Flying erase head. Second from top of the line that year.
Actually I lied/screwed up. My good system I liked had a high end Panasonic VHS, flying erase of course but I do not remember the model number. There was a fire and the Panasonic got replaced with1 the insurance money by the Sony. That is also what happened to my Dual 1229Q. I tell you this, you look at a turntable like that and see the headshell melted off you need a drink. I know a bunch of you rich fuckers (hope you're getting some) have turntables that pricewise make the 1229Q look like a Close-n-play but those are very good turntables. I know some have the Nakamichi cassette, even the one that flips the tape over itself, but that Technics I had had three heads and adjustable bias and Dolby HX. And you might have a moving coil cartridge but I had an Audio Technica AT13eA. That is a 2X7 hyper eliptical and went up to 30 Khz. And they were only like $150.
Later, I moved on. don't remember the amps that much but I discovered I had a penchant for Boston Acoustics speakers. The old thrown together ones were great but the BAs brought like a coherence to the sound. I gave a blown pair to my Mother, A-70s and believe it or not, somehow we got all four drivers for it for $100. (they were all blown) she gave them to my sister and now when I go see my sister if I turn it on I still go "Damn these things sound good". She had to have the woofers refoamed recently.
Now, Ma has a pair of Bose. I got them for her, I mean she paid for them but where I worked said they were a special deal. I called her and said you gotta get these. These little Bose, MUCH smaller than a toaster will shake the floor. That is when she gave my sister the BAs. But these Bose, I cannot find any model number or anything about them anywhere, and I have tried. The pair was about $250 and I was told that is a great deal. hearing them. I cannot disagree. They aren't ESL-63s but they do sound good.
Bigshow: I like how you sold your car to buy a rig.
Reminds me when I was delivering papers as a kid, and these college students in a rented house had only a stereo, no furniture, and were blasting classical.
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