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Interesting developments on the other side of the pond.
Sue Kraft
The Audio Beat
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Didn't they sell out a long time age when they started to us metal dome tweeters? T
"Interesting developments on the other side of the pond. "
Such as? You're pretty vague.
:)
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Clueless often?
Given that the sudden global drop in the stock markets is caused directly by the UK voting to leave it doesn't take a genius to figure out what she meant.
Initially response of over reaction. Panic stuff.
Then the clean up.
When the dust settles back down, England will be in about the same boat it was in prior.
One effect will be a huge reduction in housing prices in London!
EU folks will be selling off the London flat.
Germany will be even more the country carrying the EU financial burden.
The EU should have been more careful about quickly letting countries with a poor economy in.NOW the EU is paying for those errors of judgement.
IMO Greece, Spain, and Italy will drag the EU down into financial chaos.
I do not think Germany alone can keep the mess afloat. So in that sense, England got out 'just in time' to not flounder when Greece, Spain and Italy drag the EU down to monetary Hell.
The problem with the UK is that our national debt is 570% of GDP, the3rd highest in the world.
Spain's is 'only' 167% and Italy's 124%.
The moment the UK loses its credit rating the proverbial will hit the fan big time and leaving the EU is exactly the way to achieve that.
Excellent discussions guys.
...my good dealer friend let me in on this.
Good thing I bought a new armboard for the FrankenLinn 'table when I did?
Dman
Analog Junkie
My Taylor of Old Bond Street shaving products will be more affordable, as will speakers.
... and none of them worked any better than glycerin soaps, available at places like Walmart or Walgreens for about $2 a bar. I like Neutrogena brand.
And those fancy shaving brushes do make one feel sort of *special* but I no longer bother with them either. Just wet the face, slap on some glycerin soap and be done with it...
they make a great sandalwood aftershave and cologne. Also their shaving cream is very nice, a little goes a long way.
I agree about the brushes, I have a beard so I only use the products to create shape and form for when it is time to present my glorious beard whenever I venture outside.
Not a cologne person myself, although I usually don't mind smelling it on others as long as it is subtle. I go for unscented everything.
I'm stocking up on the cream while everyone is running around flailing their arms in panic. It usually takes me 6 months to go through the PVC tub. It's my favorite shave cream.
I hope so!
I think you can buy Harbeth 30.1 now from England for less than half the US price ex VAT. Shouldn't cost too much to ship.
I just purchased my ATC SCM40s with shipping from England for half of the U.S. list price. And don't tell me about warranty issues. I buy Powerball tickets. Saving $3,500 is worth the gamble....
Got to listen to a passive/active demo of the SCM40s. ATC active rules!
Got a dealer who will sell and ship into a territory with a Harbeth distributor? If so, you would still have to look to the Brit dealer for warranty service. I bought speakers from a UK dealer when there was no Harbeth distributor in North America. Don't think Harbeth would be happy with the UK dealer who did that now.
I don't see how Bowers and Wilkins would be either helped or hindered by this change of events, as they were a multi-national company before and now after the Brexit.
In the short term the pound will fall (probably a lot) and British goods (that do not face high import tariffs in overseas markets) will be cheaper.
Long term I think the Brexit will deeply hurt British exports (what remains of them) though.
England (with Scotland, Wales and possibly Northern Ireland becoming independent) will most likely become more of a service and tourism based economy than is already the case.
A vacation in sunny-not England might end up being cheap for Americans and Europeans, but English subjects will be stuck at home.
This on account of a lower British Pound, at least in the short to medium run.
Scotland and Northern Ireland leaving the Union is a distinct possibility.
I love the music of Dmitri Shostakovich ...
Can there be any trade advantage for England from bowing out of the EU?
No with a lower pound it will increase UK exports and make them cheaper. As D. Trump said we have got our Country back.
The problem is that the UK actually manufactures very little these days. You have nothing to sell and have just lost your biggest market.
We have not lost our biggest market the EU sells more to us than we sell to them .German car manufacturers have told Merkel they are reliant on the UK market and not to put any obstacles in the way of trading with the UK.
Now may be the time to buy that British car you always lusted for, though.
and a whole lot of 'FUD'! :-)) (In case you don't know this acronym, it is a description of IBM's sales strategy back in the 60s & 70s ... sow Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt about your competitors' products ... and you will win the sale! :-)) )
As history shows - it was a very effective sales methodology.
As I see it, whilst the EEC (European Common Union) was a great idea ... it then unfortunately morphed into the EU - which carried with it an unelected bureaucracy in Brussels which can over-ride the sovereign rights of individual member countries.
This is what the Brits have just rejected.
Would you guys stand for a foreign government forcing you to repeal your 2nd Amendment ... and so take away your right to purchase AK47s? (I don't think so.)
Andy
We already have one and now we are here ...
Edits: 06/24/16
'an unelected bureaucracy in Brussels which can over-ride the sovereign rights of individual member countries'.
Finally someone makes sense.
"To Learn Who Rules Over You, Simply Find Out Who You Are Not Allowed to Criticize."
-Voltaire
.....'won't let anyone take Europe from us'. - German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steimeier.
Sounds like Joachim VonRibbentrop.
Germany desires to totally control all of Europe. This is merely a bump in the road. The reich has tried to dominate Europe twice in the 20th Century, resulting in utter disaster. They've finally wised up.
Today the EU, tomorrow the world!
Stay tuned.
Yep ...
Germans already rule England. Did you forget the German Queen (Saxe-Coburg Gotha) sitting on the throne and her German descendants ready to take her place?
Do you know of any elected bureaucracies?
Besides the EU can not make any laws without them being passed by the individual national governments as well.
The problem was an almost completely incapable Remain campaign leader who unfortunately is also our PM and a leave campaign based on fear, misinformation, wishful thinking and overinflated sense of self-importance.
Scotland and Northern Ireland overwhelmingly voted to remain (as did London) in the EU and the leave result will likely cause the United Kingdom to break up for good turning Great Britain into little england.
...the Brexit campaign sounded a lot like a certain "presumed presidential nominee" here basing it on fear, foreigners and open borders.
With the EU, trade and borders between the EU countries was open, like between our states.
If you notice it was the rural "fly-over" part of England that voted to leave - fearing the influx of Eastern European (Bulgaria, Romania, etc) workers coming in who took the low paying jobs Britians wouldn't do.
Yes very much like that guy.
It was mostly the over 60s who voted leave. Seems they've forgotten that joining the EEC/EU saved the UK from certain bankruptcy back in the '70s.
big England with all of those awaiting handouts.
England can no longer afford Scotland; best to let it go. Problem is the EU would not want them either. They have enough basket cases on their hands now. Before Scotland decides to secede they better make sure they are wanted by Brussels. Maybe Brussels thinks they can use the Scots recruits for their EU Army? From one master to another ...
All of the money the UK has poured into Wales ...
Just as many companies are realizing that great size is an impediment. It is an enlightened people who see the analogy with governments. Big business needs big government; it is a symbiotic arrangement that benefits few other than the participants in the deals.
Here we get cheap goods which are good for the people who have lost their jobs due to their former employers getting the stuff they used to make from Chinese factories. I think many of them are waking up to this bizarre arrangement.
If you prefer to be dictated to that is your preference. After all, when one starts as a subject it is not that great a leap. But it seems quite a few of your countrymen have seen enough of the EU nonsense.
If it was so wonderful why are other countries lining up to leave?
The ECC part was fine and I feel sure it will remain but to put into place The EURO and this vast new bureaucracy was a bridge too far. A bad implementation of Napoleon and Hitler's dream of a "united" Europe; it has too much in common with its predecessors. Not the warring, obviously, but the attempt at removing national identities and cultural differences. Homogeneity from the same people who are always going on about "diversity", doesn't that raise suspicions of motive?
Nationalism is not a dangerous thing. The Left with its ambitions of world government have successfully made it seem like the problem. Sure are lots of wars going on in a world that has supposedly put nationalism to rest. I cannot see what is wrong with loving your country and wanting the best for it. AND wanting to maintain its culture without interference.
I fully expect this to be moved or deleted.
"Sure are lots of wars going on in a world that has supposedly put nationalism to rest."
Which of the EU countries is it that are at war with each other?
I'm trying to remember the last time I saw a "Made in England/UK/Britain" label on anything. It's been a long time. Hope they are able to deal with the market changes.
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I read on the net that the UK is the 11th largest manufacturer in the world. They make all kinds of things, cars, motorcycles, toys, cookware, drugs... There is a site called Still Made in Brittan. There is something called the internet now that could be used before making such inaccurate statements. T
Hopefully, by answering, it will not be? :-))
You hit the nail on the head, IMO, with your comment " The ECC part was fine and I feel sure it will remain but to put into place The EURO and this vast new bureaucracy was a bridge too far ".
But you forgot to include those from the poor, eastern European countries, who have no free medical help so they flock to England for medical handouts, as well as jobs.
Andy
Scotland pays more money to Westminster than they get back.
Wales got more money from the EU than from Westminster so did my current home town of Birmingham.
Big business loves small countries as it gives them much more leverage.
Like Rupert Murdoch said when asked why he suports leave:"When I call Downing Street they do what I say but Bruxelles takes no notice."
The EU employs 50 000 bureaucrats, Westminster 440 000.
The EU parliament (the people who actually make decisions, every single one democratically elected) has 750 members, the UK House of Commons (semi-democratically elected) 650 and the completely unelected House of Lords 800.
The english have tried to eliminate welsh identity for 500 years and the scottish for 200 and failed miserably. Whining about losing their identity just shows a total lack of confidence by the english in their own culture.
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