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In Reply to: RE: Meat Loaf Collapses on Stage During Performance in Edmonton, Canada posted by Green Lantern on June 17, 2016 at 05:53:17
I do not find old farts reliving their glory days interesting.
Now if they really still had something NEW to say..
Then sure.
But old guys trying to recapture the good old days ..yuck.And yes I know plenty of people like to relive the good old days.. Just not me.
About the only folks who think they can continue a career way into old age are politicians... and musicians.
Oh, and university professors.
Everyone else has enough sense and the common decency to retire.I mean 50's is fine.. But when they hit 70+ Jeez....
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"These are the good old days."
- Carly Simon
:)
Agree.
But then you read about ancient rockers touring (no names, you know who...) and you find out it's often *strictly* financial. It's not about being famous or reliving glory days. They either have massive debt accumulated by their decades of the lifestyle, or they have set themselves up such that they need a huge influx of capital just to maintain all they've set up. And bad investments, going back a long time, rockers are famous for this (like lots of athletes).
It's just like us regular folk: you have to set yourself up for old age when you're "young". Once you get there, it's too late, so gotta work or sell your "lifestyle" if you have one. Some rockers probably never expected to live to be old...
...hobbling out on stage with the help of a walker, wheeze out a few bars of "Satisfaction", one more time...
There is no beer in food, but there is food in beer.
;)
Very funny. Seriously though --I hope they know when to quit so they do not humiliate themselves--go out with good memories of good music and good shows
Actually, not proud to admit it but I thought he was already dead. Maybe we need a "Dead Or Alive" thread. But I was reading on the web that many have died in the last couple of years.
And now I wonder what happened after, maybe they had an intermission, maybe gave him some good drugs and the concert continued ? I remember a buddy telling me that the lead singer of, I can't think of the name of the band right now but they did "Love Hurts" rolling out on stage right after a bad accident in a wheelchair and singing his ass off.
Not a singer, but Chris Farley had a shit ton of energy for a fat person. I may have conflated him with Meatloaf.
But anyone who has ever tried to REALLY sing knows that it takes alot of energy. Think of Meatloaf's hits, Dashboard Lights and Bat Out Of Hell, try singing those.
Some of these people REALLY work, lead singer for ACDC jumping all over the place, many others I can't begin to list here. In fact, who all has even tried to play a guitar and sing at the same time. I developed that skill but I admit I am not that good at it. As such I have learned to appreciate talent.
Some of these people go so nuts on stage they have to do cocaine to go to sleep. I remember one place I worked where every once in a while we pulled an all nighter, and I know I could not get to sleep afterwards. Almost always missed the next day.
I think that most people can keep going on and on and their body and mind adapt, and then sleep is not even a thought. They won't stop until they drop.
Also, Meatloaf is obese, possibly morbidly obese. He is probably on some medications. If he is on certain drugs he should probably stop taking them before a performance. Like vasodilators for example. I know stopping them can result in a stroke, but you are making big money. There are also other drugs people should not take, ACE inhibitors, calcium blockers and a few others, especially any psychotropics, but there was probably no reason to believe Meatloaf was on psyche drugs. Almost all mass shooters are, or were actually. But he never shot anyone as far as I know.
Anyway, bottom line is that it is just as likely that his medications caused this as his condition. People need to manage their drugs. Just like diabetics have to take blood sugar reading. He should know "I have to go nuts on stage tomorrow so I am not taking this and that and only taking a half of that". You have the right to do that, doctors orders are not the law of the land. If they were my Father would have been dead five years earlier. They made a mistake on his prescription, giving him something like five times the amount he needed.
Anyway, I wonder if this was caused by medication he was on. He knew about his condition which means he went to a doctor, and doctors prescribe medication. Logical ?
I don't even take aspirin. I mean nothing.
Just because he's obese doesn't mean he went to a doctor regularly, or followed a doctor's advice. I see a LOT of people who are obese and have been for a LONG time. I hadn't been to a doctor for a general check-up/assessment in 20 years. When I did go last year, he told me to lose 5 pounds. I was 180, at 5' 11". Okay, I can do that. Then I go to the grocery store, and see multiple people who I'm sure their doctor tells them to lose 75 pounds - and I've seen them for years. Clearly, they ain't following their doctor's advice, or, they don't go to a doctor 'cause they don't want to hear the bad news.
:)
" I hadn't been to a doctor for a general check-up/assessment in 20 years. When I did go last year, he told me to lose 5 pounds. I was 180,"
I am 5'11" and 2hen I was 180 I felt like I could fly almost. I went upstairs THREE at a time. Some dude tried with both hands to twist my arm and I showed him. Me and the crowd could lift the back end of a rear wheel drive car, and once we stole a piano. Not really though the guy stopped paying rent on the garage where he was keeping it.
We were not to be fucked with, to say the least. Be cool and you are OK, we won't touch you.
Now later, I can barely walk, my one buddy has had a heart attack in his fifties. The other guy (a great guitarist who never got the break) who used to fight with him back to back out of a bar when shit happened, looks like he is 90 years old.
We lived, and now we are dying. I accept my fate. I had it good, REALLY good for some time. Not no mo. So anytime is cool with me. I am cool with it, I have done most of my living.
I agree on the amount of obesity and it bothered me until seeing this guy
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