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In Reply to: RE: Which component has benefited most/least from modern tech? posted by Todd Krieger on April 25, 2016 at 15:50:50
Todd,
You need to get out and see/hear what is possible. Upsampling to high speed DSD and using a great DAC is out of this world better than any pre 2000 system....any. One guy says it is better than his $20,000 turntable with $5,000 cartridge. Another says that upsampling DSD 64 to DSD 512 sounds better than any other source period....including reel to reel.
Other pure R2R DACs like the big MSB and Trinity also make PCM sound outrageous. This has never happened before. We are hearing things on CDs that were recorded in the 80s that we never knew existed. Here is a couple of links that are just the tip of the iceberg:
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?20405-T-A-1-bit-converters-in-the-PDP-3000HV-and-DAC-8-DSD
http://www.head-fi.org/t/780385/gustard-x20-dac/615
People are recording in Quad DSD and cannot hear ANY difference between analog tape and a copy......this is exciting. Digital has arrived!
However, you cannot just set up a junk computer to do the sending....you need to tweak every part and every cable. Just like anything else. You will be rewarded for your efforts.
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"You need to get out and see/hear what is possible."
This is why I attend audio shows.... Will be at THE Show in Newport Beach, CA next month.
"Upsampling to high speed DSD and using a great DAC is out of this world better than any pre 2000 system....any."
If it's upsampled asynchronously, I've yet to hear something comparable.... If it's upsampled *with* DSD, it's an improvement, but I've heard better with older "*x oversampled" Redbook playback.
"One guy says it is better than his $20,000 turntable with $5,000 cartridge. Another says that upsampling DSD 64 to DSD 512 sounds better than any other source period....including reel to reel."
Won't doubt that.... I've also met people who think MP3 was the best thing they've ever heard......
"Other pure R2R DACs like the big MSB and Trinity also make PCM sound outrageous. This has never happened before. We are hearing things on CDs that were recorded in the 80s that we never knew existed. Here is a couple of links that are just the tip of the iceberg...."
There is a lot of good CD playback out there.... But I've yet to hear high-resolution digital audio playback that I thought was listenable for an extended period of time.
"People are recording in Quad DSD and cannot hear ANY difference between analog tape and a copy......this is exciting. Digital has arrived!"
I'll probably encounter a lot of it next month...... Although DSD is still expensive in most cases.
"However, you cannot just set up a junk computer to do the sending....you need to tweak every part and every cable. Just like anything else. You will be rewarded for your efforts."
Maybe..... But I lost faith in computer playback when the OS was updated.... Or even the hard drive defragmented.... Computer audio is too much of a black art, vulnerable to upgrades.... (I've even heard degradation with updates to player software, ripping software, and burning software.) And even when I had good computer audio, it was a different ballgame with a good dedicated CD playback rig.
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?20541-DSD512-May-Fest-in-Munich-2016
what about here ...
https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/5842?by_user=florianw
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