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RE: nope....hirez is better than 44.1 at the top of the food chain. below that too many variables to be certain.

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Todd Krieger

In Reply to: RE: nope....hirez is better than 44.1 at the top of the food chain. below that too many variables to be certain. posted by mikel on October 07, 2015 at 21:20:09

The technical explanation behind the Lianotec design is somewhat fuzzy to me.... I guess I'd have to listen to one in order to find out if it really does something special.

I think the notion that a 384 kHz native signal being oversampled in order to get rid of analog post filtering altogether seems nice on paper (and I think isn't unique to this particular design), but the potential RFI being passed through unfettered at such high sample rates kind of makes me cringe...... Not to mention potential havoc it might cause with some solid state electronics.

http://www.trinity-ed.de/typo/index.php?id=18 (Open in New Window)

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RE: nope....hirez is better than 44.1 at the top of the food chain. below that too many variables to be certain. - mikel 05:35:02 10/08/15 (4)
nothing 'nice on paper' about it. it is the real deal. it is by far the quietest, cleanest, most explosive redbook i have heard. vocals, pianos, any strings, horns, all sound great. super quiet backgrounds. amazing dynamic energy. yet zero edge or harshness.

i compare it favorably to state of the art dsd, vinyl and RTR tape in my system and it holds it's own like redbook never has before.

i realize that skepticism is the stock in trade of many. guilty till proven innocent when you can't connect the dots of your personal experience or technical understanding. benefit of the doubt is for others...not you.

here are 2 links which might help.....or not.

more detailed explanation....

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?12023-Trinity-DAC&p=238265&viewfull=1#post238265

how Trinity is different....

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?12023-Trinity-DAC&p=244005&viewfull=1#post244005

sorry, don't know how to post links in audioasylem

YMMV, just my 2 cents, and all that.

mikel
- Wow....... - Todd Krieger 09:18:44 10/08/15 (3)
  Fifty-eight grand..... (According to The Absolute Sound report... Link below.) Didn't realize the price of this was in the ionosphere..... It *should* be the best DAC in the world............
  
  This is a product you could charge admission for people to listen.....
  - http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/tas-at-rmaf-robert- (Open in New Window)
  - RE: Wow....... - mikel 10:24:46 10/08/15 (2)
    that article references the 'old' Trinity dac which was a 3 chassis affair and is no longer made.
    the newer one I have is a single chassis and it came out in late 2013.
    I really don't know the exact list price as it's not imported into North America. it is around that same price area though.
    I don't charge admission. you would be welcome to visit anytime to hear it. it is worth hearing to anyone who has an interest in the best possible redbook or PCM.
    cheers,
    mikel
    
    Edits: 10/08/15
    - RE: Wow....... - Todd Krieger 17:25:14 10/08/15 (1)
      I wonder if this product was at RMAF........
      - RE: Wow....... - mikel 20:14:58 10/08/15 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Wow....... posted by Todd Krieger on October 08, 2015 at 17:25:14
        
        Todd,
        
        the Trinity dac was not at RMAF.
        
        Trinity is a small German company with limited capacity. they are a huge deal in HK, particularly as it's a redbook/PCM centric market, and that market does absorb much of their output. with the labor intensive process for the dac they can only produce 3 a month.
        
        at this point they sell direct into the North American market. they did have a USA distributor but do not currently.
        
        I sort of stumbled onto them researching the ultimate PCM dac. the more I looked and researched and read, the more I was intrigued. I bought mine without ever hearing it. and it surpassed my expectations.
        
        mikel

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