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In Reply to: RE: Go save someone else posted by Jon Risch on January 20, 2015 at 21:48:27
"Bottom line is that until you have actually tried swapping out some high performance cables with an open and honest ear, you are just whistling in the dark."-You sound a lot like Drlowmu.
"The would be saviors really don't want to save, they just end up denigrating folks who have gotten past the ideological hump of the realization that EVERYTHING in an audio system makes a difference."
-Please, cables don't make enough difference to warrant all this nonsensical babbling, let alone a dedicated forum.
"Why is it that most folks will allow that amps, preamps, disc players, DAC's and most any audio device can sound different, despite virtually identical specs or measurements, yet cables MUST all sound the same?"
-These are way more complex. What "specs" are you referring too? there are way more ways to measure devices.
It's like saying two cars go a 100mph so they must be the same in every aspect."Are $15,000 power cords or speaker cables crazy? Sure, so is a $500,000 car, or (in my opinion) a $10,000 golf club. But when folks discuss the latter two, there is never the animosity we see with high performance/high end audio gear, just the oft expressed wish that they could afford such a luxury. "
-Hmm, I wonder what kind of cables a $500,000 car has? I bet you would pay for a $500,000 Geo Metro if it was painted gold with rhodium hubcaps.
"Folks at the Cable Asylum just want to be able to discuss cables and cable tweaks without every other objectivist objectionist trying to save all those mid-guided folks from themselves and from the other cable "nuts"."
-Folks in the General Asylum just want to be able to discuss cable stooges without having delusionalists trying to save all these misguided folks from themselves and other general "nuts".
Edits: 01/21/15Follow Ups:
So I splurged for a full set. Still use a Kimber Hero for the long run from pre to amp. but the Cardas Parsec was easy to hear as better than the prior cables.
If YOU can't hear shit, don't blame everyone else who CAN. LOL
... with a certain deficiency - in this case inability to hear something, for various reasons - wouldn't work on mitigating that deficiency.
Put together a decent system (yes, that ACTUALLY requires spending some money), pay a visit to an otolaryngologist, learn to listen (the skill these people lack entirely). But no - instead, they will pollute web forums with their "cables don't make any difference" nonsensical garbage.
From the post you responded to:
Please, cables don't make enough difference to warrant all this nonsensical babbling, let alone a dedicated forum.
Sure - if, borrowing from Colin Farrell's character in the movie "In Bruges", one "grew up on a farm AND is retarded".
Consider it a blessing that wiring is not that hard to get right.
The differences are so minor and system dependent the only thing you can really compare is how it looks and the price.
If connectors are really that big of an issue then why not bypass the connectors?
Where is the resistor and capacitor forum? At least you could somewhat quantify differences between them.
May as well have a screw forum where one could discuss how a loose screw sounds.
How about a sticker forum?...
Imagine the endless audiophile upgrades one could apply with nothing more then a bubble jet printer.
The 21st century is actually here, now.
The only important knowledge here is experience: those who have it, have a (relative) consensus. Outside reason, you're drowning, almost alone, ignorant.
"Asylums with doors open wide,
Where people had paid to see inside,
For entertainment they watch his body twist
Behind his eyes he says, 'I still exist.'"
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