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In Reply to: RE: causes of DARK sounding system? posted by bullethead on January 20, 2015 at 14:17:01
I don't know all of the pieces you have in your system since I have only heard the pieces that I've heard in my life. However, do the different pieces by themselves tend to have a sound that would never be described as bright? I ain't no eggspert but if you had a whole chain of components that emphasize bass and tend to roll off or at least deemphasize the higher frequencies it seems entirely possible that no matter the room treatments the system is going to probably sound dark and lifeless.
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by themselves they sounded alright when hooked up to different chains. I just removed some treatments strategically, now sounds are reflecting more and it sounds more alive, breathing a bit. However I am trying to reach the first point I had a real system in my mind. That's not coming back, the excitement when you first experience something wears off.
I think I ruined everything with excess, I am sure that's not really a problem. I have unimaginable amount of music at my fingertips and nothing to listen to.
Cheers!
I previously stated we have the same loudspeakers and similar amps. I have extensive room treatments including GIK Acoustics Screen Panels (4) & Tri-corner Bass Traps with built in Scatter Plates (4). According to RealTraps you cannot ever have enough bass traps. The CDT in your Gallos have a very wide dispersion and require first reflection point treatment.
My room is 18 x 18 x 8 with an additional 6 x 6 alcove to one side at the bass of an open stairwell. The floor is porcelain tiles covered with an 8 x 10 wool carpet with a very heavy inch thick pad. The ceiling tiles are suspended. The Ref 3.5's are 9 feet apart, 3 feet from the front wall and 4 feet from the side walls. The sweet spot is 13 feet from midway between the loudspeakers.
The GIK panels were all added gradually with a pair at a time. I do have five bookcases two of which have glass doors. The sound was very bright, strident and hard without acoustic treatments. Given all this, I would never have characterized my end result as dark but more balanced. The Ref 3.5's benefit with a generous application of power. The pictures above may help although we do have very different rooms I am sure.
cool looking woofer ;)
Hey BHead,
When people (audiophiles) talk about room treatments, they almost always think absorption, when what they should think is absorption and diffusion.
"Soundstage" is a term often bandied about. A large/wide soundstage requires reflections from room surfaces. This is an important aspect of how we perceive "spaciousness" and, therefore, soundstage. Clearly, this is difficult to achieve in a small room, but, over-damping is not the solution.
hth
:)
Have another beer.
and a joint
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