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"it's possible to have both things going on at once"..

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In Reply to: RE: I think it's possible to have both things going on at once... posted by Old SteveA on September 08, 2014 at 10:58:27

Sure, which is like giving peace a chance and finding the golden mean, etc etc.

Which is another way of saying what I said to Mac, which is that the "camps" can "overlap."

But.

But if you want beauty and involvement maximized or clarity and transparence maximized, "having both things going on at once" won't get it, will it? For some ears, compromising one goal or the other equals boredom.

So since one can't get REALITY through the speakers, one opts for the aspect of reality one wants most. Or, as you imply, one goes for peace, which in audio is sort of overrated. Not that we don't all do something of the sort. But we don't want to fool ourselves that compromising is the same as not.

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RE: "it's possible to have both things going on at once".. - Frihed89 22:09:06 09/08/14 (1)
The only time I heard a full Cantata-Crimson-Tocaro system was at an RMAF a few years ago (Bob was waiting for his Tocaros when i visited him), and I found myself engaged by the truth. I had the same experience at a Copenhagen show, listening to a Gryphon Diablo integrated.

So, I guess this is an example of overlap i had overlooked.

And I acknowledge it is dangerous to put people in boxes.

Observe, before you think. Think before you open your yap. Act on the basis of experience.
- RE: "it's possible to have both things going on at once".. - Bob Neill 06:32:05 09/09/14 (0)
  Putting people (like me) in boxes is how you start a conversation. I have no problem with that if you have no problem with my wriggling out of it!
  
  If you are the kind of dealer I am, who only sells what he likes (not a great way to make money, by the way but it does tend to keep you honest), you are apt to move about a bit. You get used to one presentation because it does something really well that you value highly, it becomes your favorite/norm, then somebody (John Geisen, Creston Funk) tricks you into hearing something really good that's different, and you..move about a bit. Because everything you have has its virtues, you're likely to move back and then about some more.
  
  None of this matters in dealing with customers because you just play the stuff and let them figure out where they are. But as a pontificator, it can make you sound like a cad who plays the field. Or a politician. You have known me long enough to have looked in on various points in my odyssey, so you should know how unfaithful a lover I can be. I would like to think I have been on a generation long odyssey toward Ithaca. But in fact, I've just been a peripatetic like the rest of us, attracted first by the sirens/gods of beauty, then the sirens of clarity, then the sirens of warmth and savoriness-- Aphrodite, Apollo, Dionysus. I'm never attracted for long by anything that's not really good at what it does. But there are a lot of different things to do well.

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