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In Reply to: RE: Legacy Products That Out Perform Their Modern Counterparts posted by geezerrocket on September 02, 2014 at 10:45:40
My guess is that a lot of older turntables (and tonearms) could give more modern tables a run for their money.
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I think digital audio playback, from purely a sonic standpoint, peaked in the 1990s, and has regressed ever since.
I personally use the Philips CDC-935 CD changer, modified with tube output stage. This player's DAC section is IMO as good as anything short of a Prism DA-2 or Wadia 9 DAC (both 1990s vintage products). And the JVC XL-Z1050 CD player is once of the best ever at connecting the listener to the music. The one CD player I'd personally call a "classic".
My TD 124 is sublime.
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As is my Lenco L75.....
........I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes... until the main course.
I agree. Lenco owners can be justly proud of their turntables.
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Today we have better theory, better test equipment and better means of production than anything they had in the 1970s. When it comes to electronics, the best of the best today can't be touched by vintage anything. Even average can be pretty darn good. OTOH, the bottom is as bad as it ever was.
The same is true for mechanics, so far as analysis and design capabilities, but the economics are a disaster. It costs so much to make precision mechanical parts that the high volume makers in the '70s could easily compete with most of what you can get today. We're capable of better, but you have to pay a lot more to get it. I wonder what a classic Thorens or Empire would cost to build today?
I agree with you. I too wonder what it would cost to make a TD 124 today, or any of the top of the line turntables of yesterday.
When it comes to amp design, (tubes in particular) I think there is nothing truly new under the sun. From what I understand, the designs are basically recycling designs from the "golden" age of audio.
I do believe however, that many of the components have been improved, such as teflon caps and metal and carbon film resistors. No more paper and wax caps being made, and that is a huge improvement.
I do wonder, however, if today's electrolytics will match the lifespan of yesterdays. For example, I have several early 60's amps, and the electrolytics are still working fine, although I believe that I will need to start replacing the electrolytics in my '61 Hammond organ soon.
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