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In Reply to: RE: Legacy Products That Out Perform Their Modern Counterparts posted by geezerrocket on September 02, 2014 at 10:45:40
You're reaching a series of conclusions based on your own anecdotal experience. So, I can't comment on the veracity of your statements.
However, I truly hope that the newer Klipsch speakers are better than the older big ones. They sounded like crap.
Vintage Altec and JBL? Surely you jest. Altec, without significant EQ, was like putting a dentist drill in your ear. JBL was all over the map, but mostly "boom-sizzle". "Acoustic lens" - Ha! What a joke - no surprise that even they abandoned it.
Many of these companies are still the same in name only, having gone through corporate/branding ownership changes, sometimes more than once, so to compare a current "Marantz" product to a Saul Marantz product is like comparing products from two different companies - because they are.
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Inmate 51;
I'm not reaching any conclusions. I was just stating that I have read here and elsewhere where some audiophiles seem to prefer a company's legacy product(s) more than their current offerings.
I have had a mix of vintage and modern gear now and in the past. All of it works well together so I don't know of any anecdotal experience that I may have that supports exclusively vintage, or modern gear.
I have had the latest equipment from Paradigm Reference, Pass Labs, PS Audio, Magnepan, Sony ES, Schiit, and more. I have also had great vintage gear from Fisher, Sherwood, Harmon Kardon, Dynaco, Lenco, and Audio Research.
I just wished (others may also) to hear from inmates about their experiences where legacy gear was preferred over the modern or updated version - THAT'S ALL.
An example of what I was getting at is something like the Marantz 9, 8b, or 7 commanding a great deal of money when offered. The market can't be driven exclusively by collectors. Surely there must be those audiophiles that prefer their respective sound/performance.
You obviously have your opinions about Klipsch Heritage, Altec, and JBL that you so eloquently expressed - great.
........I was a vegetarian for 15 minutes... until the main course.
Some audiophiles prefer (...) (fill in the blank with any and all outlandish stuff and that is the state of hifi today.
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all the best,
mrh
Inmate51,I don't disagree with your conclusions, but consider this:
A whole lot of the vintage recordings you [probably] enjoy were mastered using vintage equipment, including Altec and JBL. Example? How about most of the Beatles Recordings using Altec speakers. Oh, and tubes, (assuming you dislike them also.)
My conclusion is, take your mother's advice, if you can't have something positive to say, don't say anything. Someone just might have something bad to say about your choice of audio equipment also :P
PS See Tinear's post about "vitriol" below, sums it up I think.
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