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In Reply to: RE: "The Distortion of Sound" playing now on Sundance Channel posted by Barabajagal on August 26, 2014 at 19:03:34
All I heard was there were ways to bring life back into the music at the very end. Perhaps there was a screen shot of the Clari Fi towards the end?
I haven't listened to a lot of MP3 music, but what I've heard absolutely sucked compared with even cd recordings of the same cuts played over the big rig.
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All I heard was there were ways to bring life back into the music at the very end. Perhaps there was a screen shot of the Clari Fi towards the end?Go look at the bottom of the page at http://www.distortionofsound.com.
I haven't listened to a lot of MP3 music, but what I've heard absolutely sucked compared with even cd recordings of the same cuts played over the big rig.
Doesn't matter how you feel about MP3, the fact remains that the video is just plain dishonest. Data compression (MP3 and the like is) not the same as dynamic range compression (Google "loudness wars"). Watch the section where they compare uncompressed to compressed. The waveform they show (and the sound of the track) is NOT the result of data compression. It shows dynamic range compression. And it doesn't even represent dynamic range compression quite accurately.
Dynamic range compression is used to make a track sound louder. So not only are the dynamics compressed, the whole thing is raised in level. In their demo, the level is actually REDUCED. So what they're comparing to isn't even something you would ever encounter in real life.
Like I said, they should be sued for fraud it's so misleading.
Edits: 08/26/14
Barabajal wrote:
"Doesn't matter how you feel about MP3, the fact remains that the video is just plain dishonest. Data compression (MP3 and the like is) not the same as dynamic range compression (Google "loudness wars"). Watch the section where they compare uncompressed to compressed."
I haven't seen the film. Went to the page and "clearly" Harman is marketing this "film". Here is what they say it does:
"""Clari–Fi scans all types of compressed audio files for lost music details, supporting MP3, AAC, Satellite Radio, Playback and Streaming Music Services.
Once identified, Clari-Fi intelligently corrects waveform deficiencies based on existing music information and audio source quality.
Recaptures the missing highs and lows. Restores the vocals to their natural tone. Returns to a true stereo sound. Removes unwanted distortions and artifacts."""
So if it indeed does this and does it properly and somehow can take a crappy MP3 and restore it back to its original 16/44.1 that would be useful. This is where the majority of distortion is in music today. Of course not for most of us that don't use compressed forms of music that are also available uncompressed on CD or vinyl.
This phrase "intelligently corrects" makes me think it is like some error correction and makes a guess if you will. If it doesn't "restore" the track to a bit by bit exact form of the original it is useless. Come to think of it even if it does it is useless to me, I don't use compressed forms of audio. I don't have compressed music to "Clari-Fi".
The loudness wars thing to me while it can and does "distort" what is the real sound a group produces is different and is less an issue for me. Much less. Certain genres, especially forms of pop music (rock,rap,R&B etc) do this but what I listen to? Not so much.
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According to the guy I just talked to at Harman it doesn't "restore" anything.
It's just a device that applies EQ, dynamic expansion, etc in a way that, according to Harman, makes a MP3 type file "sound better". In Harman's opinion.
It's a gimmick.
Tre'
Have Fun and Enjoy the Music
"Still Working the Problem"
Sort of like Auto-tune... guaranteeing the craptacular.
lol-craptacular, one of my favorite words!
ET
Laughing...
I first heard when Bart described Homers lackluster Christmas decorations on the exterior of their house.
ET
I wouldn't be holding my breath awaiting a fraud lawsuit were I you.
Glad I'm not an industry professional like you Steve or I may not have enjoyed the show :)
Seeming as it addressed an issue most everbuddy here complains about ad nauseum, I thought it would be of interest to most (obviously not ALL) inmates.
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