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In Reply to: RE: The pic of that console is a great example of posted by E-Stat on August 24, 2014 at 15:29:25
But that is the incomparable Neve--the finest ever developed brainchild of Englishman Rupert
Neve-
Featured in the Dave Grohl Doco
soundcitymovie.com
Des
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That particular Neve console was an '86 model.
At that time Neve was owned by Siemens and Rupert had left the company eleven years earlier in '75. Rupert's input on the design of that console was zero.
In 1985 Rupert Neve founded Focusrite building mic pres and compressors.
1988 Rupert released the legendary Focusrite Forté console, a cost-no-object statement.
Apparently for potential customers cost was an object and only 6 were ever sold: two to each the US and Japan, one was installed in London and one in Bophuthatswana to the best of my knowledge.
I was relating to the Neve Consoles in general
Des
Then why did you post what you did when you know it's BS?
When the Neve was mentioned --i was simple relating to the product in general terms and its
influence on the recording scene in general -not that one specifically in the shot
I don't think I should be shot at dawn
Des
A Neve was mentioned and as it happened one that had nothing at all to do with Rupert and whose SQ, going by people who have actually used it, is well below par. Which itself is kinda odd because Siemens at the time made some exceptionally good consoles under their own name.
Unfortunately as great as Rupert is as a designer he seems to be quite bad at the business side of things. He did found Focusrite in '85 and produced the Forté console in '88 but by '89 he had left Focusrite. The name and remaining assets were bought by someone else.
Either way this is what you said:"But that is the incomparable Neve--the finest ever developed brainchild of Englishman Rupert Neve"
As it stands I can not find a shred of truth in that statement. You would get no grieve from me had you said that about a Neve which was actually designed by Rupert like the custom Neves commissioned by George Martin and used in the various AIR Studios.
1975?!! Wow, has it been that long? Heck, I was still wet behind the ears back then, and getting all misty-eyed over Neve consoles, UA compressors, and other audio things. Those were the days!It would be interesting to know what other designers think of Rupert Neve's works. All those guys have a kind of love/hate relationship.
:)
Edits: 08/25/14
The problem isn't the console per se - it's the ludicrous number of tracks.
Stack a hundred photo sides and look through all of them at once through the light. See any depth?
I can stack over 500 files of the Moon shot with RED 5K Dragon and get the Image Pin sharp
on a 3m Fuji Chrome Print from an Osi Lightjet printer.
Sorry -but you must agree the Neve was a product that delivered some fine Analog LP's
Sound City Ca
Des
when you place it in context.
I can stack over 500 files of the Moon
How often do engineers mix tracks the of same microphone?
Now, stack images of a hundred pictures of various planets, asteroids, along with different objects from the Messier catalog to illustrate my analogy in your context.
Sorry -but you must agree the Neve was a product that delivered some fine Analog LPs
Such as?
Surely you must agree there is some merit in the recordings of the Artists below
--all done throughout the Neve Console at Sound City Ca 1971-1992
Fleetwood Mac
Tom Petty
Elton John
Neil Young
Metallica
Guns N'Roses
Foreigner
Johnny Cash
Buckingham Nicks
Cheap Trick
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
among others
Like I mentioned take a squiz at Dave Grohl's Sound City Doco--he bought the Console and has it now in his Studio in Seattle
Good Listening,
Des
my observation had to do with the picture of a sixty track console. I seriously doubt that any of those recordings to which you refer employed that many mics.
Of your list, I have recordings by Fleetwood Mac and find it very hard to believe they had any need to use anywhere near that many on four people.
Here is how they recorded 'Go Your Own Way'.
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