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What's the fuss about? Really.
Doak
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Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
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This is not hard.
1. We don't always want to listen to what our wives want to listen to.
2. Our wives don't always want to listen to what we want to listen to.
3. Consequently, we want a listening experience that (a) we don't have to share and (b) keeps us from having to share others' listening experiences.
Happy listening,
Jim
"The passage of my life is measured out in shirts."
- Brian Eno
You can get many as I do (one from all the major players) and I'm sure many here also do without costing a bundle. And all the bennies that everybody mentioned.
You can get some seriously good sound for a lot less than a good pair of speakers.
Given the proliferation of digital files and personal audio, you can make a killer portable setup for when you are on the road.
If you live in an apartment or have a lot of roomies, you can listen to your music without disrupting anyone (usually).
What you don't get? The illusion of the stage, the chest thumping bass.
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fds
They've become a (relatively) new craze and fashion statement among those who actually give a shit about that kind of thing. I understand that in certain areas of some cities hipsters would feel naked if they were strolling down the sidewalk without their Beats by Dr. Dre(ck).
Personally, I use my Sennheisers for late night listening when my wife is asleep. Otherwise I strongly prefer my speakers.
Cheers,
Al
I guess we both have stilted viewpoints.
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Beatnik's stuff http://web.me.com/jnr1/Site/Beatniks_Pictures.html
Every night I put on a disc and drive off to music land.
More resolution than speakers (and my speakers are Quads).
No room interactions. Just surrounded by music.
Bliss.
HD800's with a tube amp. It's to die for. My hour of music every night is the high point of my day.
"The problem with quotes from the internet is that many of them just are just made up."
-Abraham Lincoln
You hear everything in the recording.
EVERYTHING.
Listening to the Beatles albums... you hear how brilliant those arrangements were.
You want to hear DSOTM, really hear it? Headphones.
"The problem with quotes from the internet is that many of them just are just made up."
-Abraham Lincoln
> > "You want to hear DSOTM, really hear it?" < <
Pass.
...I only listen to high end earbuds (Shure SE530s) with my iPod.
They lack the wide dynamic range, movement of air, depth and stereo imaging I get with my big system in my treated room.
But they do provide a different perspective and I always hear something new in the music.
Mike:
I am a musician and cannot listen to music without singing or humming, etc. With earphones, any sound I make confounds what is coming through the headphones. I can occasionally listen to something but not for very long.I also sense music with other parts of my body that earphones cannot touch. Percussion, for example.
Mike
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Not quite...With headphones, I do notice things I've never noticed before. The downside to this upside is that I must also learn to ignore some things I've never been forced to ignore before.
The sonic details of "direct sound" are to be heard when listing with headphones. The resonant chambers of headphone earcups do provide a bit of indirect sound in pantomime form, but this is unlike the mixture you get with stereo loudspeakers. That said, I'm convinced that there are a few types of sounds and feelings that are more successfully reproduced by loudspeakers. As if certain subtle ambient clues are lost or un-created during the translation to headphones, loudspeakers sometimes have the edge in detail reproduction.
Eliminating the room with headphones does let me hear the direct sound of the recording. But, because the room has been eliminated, the headphone prevents me from hearing details that *only present themselves in open-air acoustics*. A truly good loudspeaker system presents direct sound and reflected sound in optimal balance for an individual listener. The secondary reflections in a loudspeaker system are in fact part of the glory of the loudspeaker system. An agreeable mixture of sound works to re-create sonic details while providing a sense of "air" in the loudspeaker system. Binaural recordings greatly help to restore this particular type of realism to headphone listening, but really good binaural recordings have been a rarity in the marketplace so far.
All along the circular, measured steps on the porch of the Pantheon I see headphones sitting just below the loudspeakers. Things might change in the future as headphone recordings and headphone systems become better and more sophisticated.
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...but I'm just too damn tired of DSOTM.
Dean.
reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
You want to hear DSOTM, really hear it? Headphones
No headphones will ever give you the sheer visceral impact of listening to DSOTM (or anything else for that matter) on a good pair of loudspeakers. Sure, you can "hear" a lot of things with headphones, but you can't fully experience the music the way you can with good loudspeakers.
I like my headphones (Alpha Dogs) and also love my speakers (Maggie 3.6's)
The presentation is totally different The speakers spread the sound out in front of you just like you would hear live music. The sound from headphones is in your head although this can very with different recordings. This is not a knock of headphones but they are a different experience from speakers
Alan
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Beatnik's stuff http://web.me.com/jnr1/Site/Beatniks_Pictures.html
No room interactions, won't wake up your wife and/or kids, won't bother your neighbors, max detail, relatively inexpensive, low maintenance, not confined to your residence, always in the sweet spot.....
You can listen to Barry Manilow, Andre Rieu, the Magic Organ, Liberace, the Village People, the Bee Gees, Lady Gaga, Eminem, Abba, Milli Vanilli, Richard Simmons, Lawrence Welk, Yanni, the Chipmunks, or Barbra Streisand without worry of embarrassment. [-;
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Justin Bieber strikes me as one of those guys if asked how many symphonies Beethoven composed, or what instrument Miles Davis played, he'd have no clue.....
I also forgot Madonna........
But wouldn't these be embarrassing?
"But wouldn't these be embarrassing?"
Who says one can't listen to the Village People on some Audeze cans? .... ..... ;-p
When I take my 1TB USB travel drive with me on the road - the one with about 600 ripped CD's at 14.4/16 and over 700 LP's at 24/96 I'm not listening to that with cheap and nasty earbuds. No sir, not me.
It's going to be with my USB Dragonfly and my Grado Reference RS1's.
And that's what headphones are for. To hear the music when you're not at home.
Portability and compactness, sound quality, price, coolness, fun.
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Personally, I'm not into "coolness" in the fashion sense but it's nice to know that it is there if I need it!I still like (and use) the ugly, old-style headphones. For me, the "coolness" is more about the ingenious tech involved in manufacturing and producing good sound.
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... I love to wear headphones at live concerts because then I can listen to my own music instead of hearing the crap being played on stage.
Smile
Sox
Ha! But that begs the question, why are you at the live concert if you're going to wear headphones. ??
... Why do I go?
Try to imagine what nubile wenches might wear to a concert here in the sub-tropics.
Now, need I explain more?
Smile
Sox
Be sure to take binoculars to go with your headphones! ;-)
You can get an absolute killer headphone based system for a hell of a
lot less money, equipment, and frustration than you can a killer speaker
based system.
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reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
...then you can just use loudspeakers.
I have used a sub with headphones. The "thumping' is usually not as noticeable as it is with loudspeakers because the volume levels are usually lower. You don't need to hear the bass in the room as you do with loudspeakers. You mostly need to feel the bass in the air at the listening seat, more of a "purring" than a thumping.
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Maybe he has room for just one big thumping bass woofer in the center of the room!
"Rock-N-Roll." ;-)
I often have thought that i would like to try that. It seems extreme at first but, isn't that what we DO?
...regards...tr
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indeed!
I have old stax electrostatics that rival me esl57's, and don't several square metres of flooor, and of course no fussy sweetspot.
Sure you can't move around and do other things, but for dedicated listenning they are brilliant!
Partial to them myself.
"The problem with quotes from the internet is that many of them just are just made up."
-Abraham Lincoln
that's how much space you need for them, which I won't get till one or both of my kids leave home
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