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In Reply to: RE: ok. it's not as bad as it used to be...still there is no exuse for this posted by Jon L5 on July 30, 2012 at 18:53:57
at $3000!
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It's not really a fair comparison. The NHT's were a legitimately full-range, 4 way design. The cheapest full-range Stereophile class A speaker this year is 16k.
A - Restricted Extreme LF along with Martin Logan Ascent: $4495, Harberth Super HL5: $3995. Regardless of the performance, they are hideous - and I'd take any of the mentioned (or any other class) speakers before them. There is a reason why they were discontinued, despite front page cover and excellent review.The "cheapest" A - Full range that year was Avantgarde Uno 3.0 11,970 - $13,970
“Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead"
― Charles Bukowski
Edits: 08/01/12 08/01/12
the NHTs were the cheapest class A full range speaker by far were they not? Your totalitarianism is creepy. Nobody's saying you have to buy ugly speakers but if somebody wants the absolute best performance they can get on a moderate budget they might choose the NHTs or some other performance oriented product. The NHTs being discontinued is just a sign of how full of crap most audiophiles are. If audio is so important why is audio performance not the deciding factor?
...I have the April issue when they were reviewed by JA. They made class A restricted LF! Avantgarde were the cheapest class A FULL range.
“Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead"
― Charles Bukowski
Ok, I didn't realize they weren't full-range. You'd think with 4 12" woofers they could qualify as full-range. They're still a fantastic deal. I think opinions would vary as to whether the Martin Logan's are actually better looking. The Harbeth's are pretty plain looking boxes themselves and I'm sure not capable of comparable volume or bass output.
All this arguing has me thinking I should try to find a used pair cheap just for fun. I bet they're under 2k used when they come up. What a deal! It'd be great to have some big ugly black boxes that can really rock sitting around the house.
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“Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead"
― Charles Bukowski
That picture does not look like four 12 inch woofers to me.With four 12 inch woofers that model wouldn't have restricted LF, so with the number and size of the woofers and the picture taken makes me think you two are talking about two entirely different Harberth speaker models.
"Happy Listening,
Teresa."
Edits: 08/02/12
...together with Harberth Super HL5. You were right I posted the wrong Harbeth...
“Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead"
― Charles Bukowski
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