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In Reply to: RE: Silly Question: What does "tight" Bass mean to you? posted by on October 13, 2011 at 09:41:09
...it's having the drum (usually) or bass guitar sound like it does in real life.When I think of good solid state bass reproduction, I think of a sharp transient attack, followed by the bloom and decay of the bass drum sound.
"Tight" is like the drum head is torqued down some - it can mean "overdamped".
Back in the early 1980s, Dave Gruisin's direct-to-disk "Discovered Again" with the cut "Keep Your Eye On The Sparrow" was the big demo disc because it had the most realistic, tightest drum sounds anyone had heard at the time.
I have it now on CD and it's still impressive.
Then when I think of good tubed bass reproduction, it's less about the quick attack and more about the bloom and decay of the note with the ambient sound of the drum in three dimensions.
The ss bass is tighter, more attack oriented, but the tubes can sound more realistic because of the decay and spatial characteristics.
Hope this helps.
Edits: 10/13/11Follow Ups:
... but, who knows for sure?
If that's "fluffy," I'm Snoop Dog.
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Live chat?
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...tubed rather than ss?
Either way, I don't think "fluffy" is it.
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...regards...tr
Hmmmm... I'll have to think about this some more.
...this look "fluffy" to you?
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... yes, it does! Much more so than I had previously thought.
Agreed that while some tubes won't do the extreme bottom end well (my system is a case study in that*), I run a pair of subs and a solid state power amp for the bottom octave, while high passing the tube amp to the main speakers. Great sounding, tight as J-Lo, and impressive on drums!
*Only when my subs are off and the main (tube) amp is running full range; whats left of the bottom octave is floppy. Also the midbass becomes quite unlistenable...
"If the audio industry built gear that sounded as good as it did 50 years ago, there would NEVER be a need to re-issued anything!"
...and of course, the speakers.I'm using Thiel 7.2s with Manley NeoClassic 250 tubed amps and the bass is pretty good.
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Nice! Thiel speakers are my reference as well.
That combo of Thiel 7.2s with Manley NeoClassic 250s must sound pretty ballsy! I've heard many a Manley, and am truly impressed with their ability to get some tight bass with the right speakers.
Personal pref- I like the ARC sound (updated in my case, with a rebuilt/modded D76a, sporting bigger PSU caps and some new ) into my own DIY dynamic dipoles (2- 6.5" mid-bass drivers) that actually get into the low 40hz when driven full range, but not exactly controlled, if you know what I mean. When I high pass the ARC (around 45hz, single pole, with everything else going to my subs), the speakers just open up and I get tube warmth/resolution/romanticism/whatever AND serious control to the low 20 Hz range...
"If the audio industry built gear that sounded as good as it did 50 years ago, there would NEVER be a need to re-issued anything!"
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