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Why has the Propeller head become the dumping ground for threads of tweaks of dubious value? Please, if folks want to tussle of Clever little clocks etc there is a tweak asylum and others that are more than willing to accomodate such nonsense.Please guys (Bored), dumping threads of tweaks of dubious value on PHP is crazy, it is drowning out the remaining trickles of decent discussion that is left there.
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"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison
nt
Give me a clever little name and we'll add a venue for these controversial tweaks.I believe that some of these threads were even moved twice, to Tweaks and out again. OTOH, these things seems to flare up and then go away.
-Rod
nt
A bit abstract, but I like it!
;-)
...dbt posts could go here, too.
- the song that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started singing it, not knowing what it was, and they'll continue singing it forever just because... (Open in New Window)
Or "Arcane Asylum".....Unlike some of the suggestions (including others of mine), this one won't insult those whose threads are re-located to the new board.....
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Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
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Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
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"Whether the subject matter is better sound, believed science, Barbra Streisand, or bullsh!#, you've come to the right board!!!"
nt.
but on the condition he does not post elsewhere.
"Absolute Expedition".....Had to say it.... [-;
nt
I say no more.....
So how is it decided what constitutes a "controversial tweak"?This in itself would seem to be a source of even more controversy...
No?
Cheers,
Presto
I suspect he hasn't formulated too much of an opinion just yet. I personally just see it as being the place where highly contentious threads in general are routed. Could be about the chip, could be about PC's, could be about Sheryl Crow's titties, etc. etc.
I think he just means the tweaks.
Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
My comment was based on previous discussion.[sorry, posted the wrong link earlier]
"could be about Sheryl Crow's titties".If Lance Armstrong starts posting here, this might become a reality. Sean
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nt
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"I always play jazz records backwards, they sound better that way"
-Thomas Edison
"Straight Jacket" or "Strait Jacket"
seems appropriate. :-)
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Snakes on a Plane. The possibilities are endless. ;-)The best I've seen so far is "The Isolation Ward".
...I thought Twilight Zone was pretty good, though a touch predictable perhaps? I'd agree though, Isolation Ward seems perfect ;)
Requires the question mark for authenticity.
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Best regards,
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No Guru, No Method, No Teacher
nt
Asylum Dump
The Dump
Asylum Landfill
The JunkyardYou catch my drift. I think these carry a connotation that would be appreciated and acceptable to those on both sides of the aisle.
Steve Eddy's "Twilight Zone" is also apropos IME.
Bullshit Boulevard
Charlatan Circle
Huckster Highway
Loony Lane
Weekly World Way
these kind of tweeks too me would take a big leap of faith.
This at least leaves the door open, a crack, as to whether or not they work.As opposed to the "You gotta be kidding me!" forum!
But now that I think about it, I kinda like the later idea!
Big J.
(Steve Alexander 2006)
Twilight Zone?se
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;-)
Gotcha!! tee hee
contributors, but maybe its time for a seperate Kait-ian/Belt-ian/Clark-ian forum where things like the wondrous aural improvements wrought by special wall outlet covers and magic-dotted clocks can be discussed at length. Perhaps Wellfed can start a contribution drive for its establishment.I sympathize with inmates on Tweaks and Prop Head who don't want their forums to become the repository for these threads . I doubt if the inmates who have digital-only systems would dig it if General became infested with posts about new stylus cleaning products and methodology. Sensibly, those discussions take place on Vinyl. Likewise many of us are not tweak-o-holics and it doesn't seem too much to ask for a General forum which does NOT repeatedly get hijacked by touters of tweaks lacking a reasonable explanation for efficacy.
...to figure out who does the hijacking of these threads. If you need a hint: it's those who have an inability to stay on topic in order to express whatever it is that is troubling them so much.I'm with you in the sympathy department though, Tweakers' and Prop Head patrons shouldn't have to be the repository for the resulting bile and bluster.
As for establishing a new forum, it seems Rod M is open to the idea. Here are some ideas for a name.
Anarchy Asylum
General Chaos
Chaos Concourse
Crisis Concourse
Batman
you, Clark, Kait and other adherents can tell each other about the wonderful aural benefits of unexplained audio phenomena to your hearts' content. If I was into praying I'd be praying that new forum would open up immediately. Might I suggest the names "Fool's Paradise", "Wooden Nickel", or perhaps "Spock's Lounge" :-)
...it's simply about finding a place for threads of controversy to reside when things get out of control. If these threads were left untouched by sceptics, I'm sure they'd probably stimulate very little discussion. I'm good to go with that prospect. I'd prefer 1 pertinent response to a billion that go off-topic, or those that result in obnoxious demands for proof and general denigration. I suspect I feel the same as you about the clutter these threads represent. How about "The Dump" for an Asylum designation. I think that would somehow appease both sides of the equation. ;-)
Dumping of large threads would be a shock to any current or future forum. If "threads of tweaks of dubious value" were initiated or quickly moved to PHP, I don't see a problem. The problem I see is proponents of such products demand for wider recognition. Whether they admit it or not.
I hesitate to ask, but what kind of wider recognition is it that you see as being demanded?
I'm totally astounded there is no retort for, "tweaks of dubious value". So much, for thread or forum of dubious value.
nt
...didn't register among your concerns. I'm over it now. I suppose there's no real surprise. It is what it is (dubious value inferences).
I've personally found them to be of immense value. Shockingly so, taken as a whole at any rate. Not to say that there aren't some I find outstanding all by their lonesome.As matters sit, I figure there's no sense arguing the point with people who've already made up their minds.
Not much happened over there until the IC threads started getting pushed its way. I do believe though that those who appreciate what PH was intended to be shouldn't be forced to wade through the muck of these controversial debates.
Not much happened over there until the IC threads started getting pushed its way.
That's rather like saying nothing much happened in your quiet little town until the Hell's Angels decided to pay it a visit.
se
:-)
PH was more than just quiet though. Not quite a ghost town, but close.
I think the Clever Little Clock deserves it's own Forum.
Best Regards,
Chris redmond.
Point taken, but frankly the tweaks forum is not about this kind of controversial stuff--it's mostly about speaker building, modding and DIY-ing established tweaks that actually work.No one wants that thread.
I think that Machina Dynamica products by all rights deserve to be there. Problem is, many people don't seem to have the ability to discuss them in a constructive manner.Practically speaking, because undies so easily get bundled I'd like to see a new Asylum created where controversial subjects can be discussed, much like Outside, but with audio related items being its focus. It's too bad that the discussion can't be based solely on the true merit of any given product.
...these topics seem to me more suited to a general board, than to one supposedly devoted to tech topics.As for conversations being devoted to "true merit of a product", rotsa ruck around here!
clark
Merit: a praiseworthy quality. The only product offered by GK that might possess such a quality would be the isolation platforms.
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There are vases, pictures (wall as well as frames on shelves), a fireplace between the speakers, stuff on the mantle, stuff on the hearth, entertainment center to the left, sofa to the right, coffee table between seat and speakers. A little jar of rocks is no more capable of absorbing audio frequencies or altering the presentation than anything else in the room.Interestingly enough, Geoff used to provide links to scientific research on the ability of minerals to absorb light. I challenged him on his links and the fact that they mentioned nothing about a minerals' ability to absorb audio frequencies. Those links were removed a couple of years ago, and there have been no replacements. So there is nothing to support his claim (scientifically) that minerals can absorb audio frequencies.
To make a claim such as this: "The reason Brilliant Pebbles is such an effective "node damper" (energy dissipater) in audio applications is that it transfers energy more efficiently and rapidly than virtually all other energy dissipation type devices." is ludicrous.
What is this claim based on? Has he taken the time to use proven dissipation devices, take measurements, and compare them to a substitute of BP's? Nope. It's based merely on a theory that if minerals can absorb light, they must be able to absorb mechanical energy down to the audible frequencies. But there are no links to support such a claim. Newbies to his web site would not know this since the links to light absorption capabilities have been removed.
Nothing can change the "mind" of the naysayer posing as a skeptic. I also gave you leads on the chip, too, but you couldn't get to square one.If you weren't such a squawky little goose, you'd find the information for yourself and stop relying on me. LOL
"He who controls the mail controls...information." - Newman
~ cheers
Colossal waste of my time. A square peg will never fit into a round hole. Just like there is nothing to substantiate the claims made on your web site.
never in."Free your mind and your ass will follow." - Arthur C. Clarke
~ Have a Nice Day
I will. Thanks...
As for the General vs. Prop Head venue question, my vote goes for General. I personally don't have a problem with them remaining at General, in fact, that would be my preference. If they are to go anywhere else I think a new Asylum is warranted.
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I don't think a new Asylum should be for new postings. Just a place for acrimonious and polarized threads to be sent. IOW, a thread pointer being left behind on whichever Asylum the tussle originates.
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Can't say that I blame them.
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. . . I agree, actually, that these belong on General, but if need be a new asylum is fine. But while your idea is good about new postings, if there's a new forum one should be allowed to add to the pre-existing death spiral. ;-)
nt
Whether it's personal confrontation, the discussion of Bose, the discussion of Magic Marbles, or the discussion of an "illegal" subject on a specific board, it gets moved there, so it won't dirty up the "normal" boards.And it will help avoid all-out deletion of threads.
And Prophead should be treated just like the other "normal" boards. The "dumping ground" should be a board solely for that purpose.
...as a name for this proposed forum. "The Dumping Ground" might be better yet.Whatever the name, I agree, there is a major need for a repository for all the highly contentious threads we see around here.
nt
I have never noticed any talk of audio on that forum.
Since I don't use to read it I didn't know it was just about politics. But I think they have a lot of flames there LOL.
nt
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