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In Reply to: Objectively what is the most accurate to the disc system - Engineers!! posted by RGA on May 14, 2006 at 00:05:14:
If you want an accurate system then I suspect you are better off looking to what professionals who want accurate systems build and use rather than posting in the Critics section of Audio Asylum.As Jim says, the first thing professionals do is spend a lot of time and effort addressing the acoustics of the room. I do not fully understand your comments about no DIY and yet being flexible about room? Electronics cannot correct for a room. What they can often do is improve the situation but they cannot fix it. Hence the effort put into getting the room as good as possible before considering any electronic corrections.
$1500.00 - $2000.00 for the speakers is unlikely to be enough. A good 3 way active studio monitor will cost more than this assuming you can find one second hand. I suspect the brand is not going to be of vital importance since once you get above a certain quality threshold the reputable manufacturers are all trying to achieve the same thing using the same well understood technology. Unfortunately, the market is not large and hence unit costs are fairly high for the better examples.
> I figure hey -- the used market is filled with all this stuff used
> so bring it on.This has not been my experience. The second hand market is filled with stuff people no longer want and this rarely includes kit that is working and doing its job well.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but B&W and PMC are two loudspeaker makers widely used in recording studios -- both make speakers that don;t cost all that much on the used market.Also as I've been told by countless forumers who supposedly "understand the graphs" any bass deficiency can be more than made up for by simply purchasing 1 or maybe 2 subwoofers from Paradigm along with a shmancy "get the bass perfect and the crossover matching perfect prosessor of which I don;t recall the name of due to a brain fart -- I want to say the Behringer Feedback destroyer but that isn't it.
Seems to me that recording studios use everything from the Paradigm Atom to Sennheiser HD 580 headphones to JBL. So it appears that the professional recording studios don;t necessarily hold the answer -- if they did there would only be ONE loudspeaker system used in every recording studio in the world.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but B&W and PMC are two loudspeaker makers
> widely used in recording studios -- both make speakers that don;t cost
> all that much on the used market.What have brands got to do with it? You were asking about accurate loudspeakers and I was suggesting to follow what the professionals use when they want accurate audio reproduction. If a recording studio uses a $30 000 PMC 3 way active monitor that does not mean a second hand $500 PMC 2 way passive loudspeaker will do the same job.
> Also as I've been told by countless forumers who supposedly
> "understand the graphs" any bass deficiency can be more than made up
> for by simply purchasing 1 or maybe 2 subwoofers...I am not sure what you asking here but accurate bass in small rooms is very difficult to achieve and is dominated by the room treatment. It is not difficult to get loudspeakers to produce bass but the accuracy is difficult.
> Seems to me that recording studios use everything from the Paradigm
> Atom to Sennheiser HD 580 headphones to JBL. So it appears that the
> professional recording studios don;t necessarily hold the answerThey also buy coffee machines to use when they want coffee. I fail to see your point.
> if they did there would only be ONE loudspeaker system used in every
> recording studio in the world.Why? Certainly there are only a few manufacturers of accurate studio monitors because the market is small but I fail to see why there should be only one.
If you own Audio Note equipment, as stated by one of the other posters in this thread, it raises the question why you might want to listen to accurate (low distortion, flat frequency response, etc...) professional type systems. They would appear to come from opposite ends of the spectrum or is this appeal?
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