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In Reply to: RE: "the statement seems to contradict itself" posted by Analog Scott on September 14, 2020 at 21:13:13
"Classical music is a patron art. For kids to learn about it and participate in a meaningful way costs money. And there in lies the problem.We do all kids a disservice by not providing funding for these opportunities. But it does not hold back kids of people with money. Money is opportuniy and people with money can give their kids all the opportunities they need or want."Yes, of course money influences the forms of music that exist in any culture. A classical orchestra is money, an opera house is money.
At the most basic level musicians used the instruments they could afford. Including nothing, with a cappella folk music. Go back a while and African Americans mostly played guitar since they didn't have pianos in their parlour, because they didn't have parlours in the first place. But poverty was never a purely A-A phenomenon, though it was a noxiously bad example of it.
Fast forward to society in Europe and the states just after WW2. On a huge scale the guitar replaced the piano in people's homes. So did the kids play Bach on their classical guitars? Hell no - they bought amplifiers and played Strats or took guitars to the beach and played blues, folk songs and Beatles tunes. The rise of the guitar was a big factor in the music kids played and transformed the music scene. The guitar was "relevant" to people's lives - it was everywhere.
Now we're in 2020 and the most "relevant" instrument in people's homes isn't a guitar, it's a computer. So we get techno music, rap, and everything else you can programme into a computer, either with a keyboard or with loops and samples.
You can't assess the classical music scene without looking at the obvious factors about what's "relevant" in young people's lives. Young people are just as clever and in love with music as their elders who grew up with classical music. They just live in a different world.
I grew up with a Bechstein grand in the living room because my father was a doctor. If my father was a miner it would have been a guitar. My son grew up with a computer. Or to be more relevant still, a mobile phone which has replaced computers in terms of time spent using it. Times change. The world changes.
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And now they have all this computer music stuff (software and hardware add-ons) which I wouldn't have the first clue (at least right now) as to how to employ! Since one of them (my kids) lives in Hollywood (actually North Hollywood), he's being encouraged by his brother (who once guested with the Van Halen tribute band, The Atomic Punks - LOL!) to make contacts there to actually monetize what up until now has been more or less just a hobby for both of them. They're both 38 (twins) and, although they both work in the "financial industry" (of necessity!) they are also constantly drawn back to their love for music. They respect the classical music which Ms. CfL and I listen to, but they're not really into it. And I can say the same about their favorite genre (it's jazz fusion now) - I do respect it, but I'm just not into it, despite trying.
One funny thing happened when they were still living here: they suddenly decided to go up to a middle school in the nearby town of Moraga and just start "jamming" (in their Van Halen wigs, no less!) with the other two members of their band to see what kind of audience they could get just from the passers by. However, somebody called the police on them. According to our kids (biased of course!), the police got there are were rocking out to their music for quite a while before they (the police) reluctantly told them they had to stop because of the complaint! (And, before tin pulls out his rhetorical question as to what would have happened if that band had consisted of black kids, yes, I can very well imagine what might have happened once the police arrived - alas.)
the police have never made a very good audience in my experience
what would have happened if those kids were Jamaican?
NATTY DREAD!
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