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But was the sitting concert master demoted or fired?

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Analog Scott

In Reply to: RE: Quite common, as I understand it posted by Chris from Lafayette on September 14, 2020 at 01:20:53

Or was the position open? And was that concert master tenured? The only orchestras whose inner workings I ever hear much about are LA and San Francisco. And my understanding with L.A. is once tenured a music director can't touch you unless you are in clear violation of orchstra rules.

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Don't know what happened to the previous concertmaster in NY - Chris from Lafayette 10:58:38 09/14/20 (9)
Maybe he could have applied for the newly vacant concertmaster position in LA! ;-)
- wiat what? - Analog Scott 18:33:51 09/15/20 (8)
  Are you joking?
  - Yes! ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 01:08:54 09/16/20 (7)
    Although I suppose it was certainly within the realm of possibility (even though it didn't happen!). I forget who the displaced concertmaster in NY was - was it David Nadien?
    - "displaced"? - pbarach 11:36:18 09/16/20 (1)
      David Nadien left the NY Phil in 1970. I don't know who served as (acting?) concertmaster before Rodney Friend was appointed in around 1975. When he left, Glenn Dicterow got the job, and he was replaced by Frank Huang (Asian-born American) in 2015.
      - Thanks for filling in the lacunae in my NYPO concertmaster knowledge! [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 17:14:15 09/16/20 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: "displaced"? posted by pbarach on September 16, 2020 at 11:36:18
    - Just checked the L.A. Phil's website - Analog Scott 06:23:12 09/16/20 (4)
      They still have Martin Chalifour as concert master. Where did you see that he was no longer there?
      - No! I was talking about Dicterow (during the Mehta era) [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 17:16:50 09/16/20 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Just checked the L.A. Phil's website posted by Analog Scott on September 16, 2020 at 06:23:12
        
        I guess we got off track in our communication somewhere! ;-)
        
        we got off track by 58 years - Analog Scott 21:29:23 09/16/20 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: No! I was talking about Dicterow (during the Mehta era) [nt] posted by Chris from Lafayette on September 16, 2020 at 17:16:50
        
        I think the union contract between LA Phil and it's musicians has changed a bit since then. Pretty sure a tenured concert master can't be given the boot by a new music director these days. Pretty sure no tenured musician can be given the boot or demoted. I could be wrong...but i do believe this was a big issue for Salonen when he became the music director of the LA Phil
        
        If true, I wonder if the contract could be bought out? [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 23:08:31 09/16/20 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: we got off track by 58 years posted by Analog Scott on September 16, 2020 at 21:29:23
        
        Almost everything is for sale - Analog Scott 18:14:12 09/17/20 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: If true, I wonder if the contract could be bought out? [nt] posted by Chris from Lafayette on September 16, 2020 at 23:08:31
        
        if the price is right

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