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In Reply to: RE: Break-in expectations for ICs using Neotech NEI 3001? posted by Duster on April 29, 2012 at 13:20:26
Those are what I use from my TT to the phono preamp, to the switch box, to the amp. Three sets, different signals. Unfortunately, I can't answer your question of how long. I know many folks simply sit and look at the hourglass while listening to new audio stuff waiting for that " revelatory moment". I can tell you is it's gonna be a while but it'll be worth it. Just play them and stop worrying about when. I've stopped thinking about other cables, they sound that good.
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The other quality pair of ICs I have here are some demo, Ensemble Dynaflux cables. Pretty pricey stuff, at least back in the day.The Ensemble's construction is not real different. Low capacitance, six (6) conductors, I beleive also an air dialectric and teflon insulation (though not positive), gold plated, very high quality connectors. I'm sure i've bungled the comparison, but they likely shouldn't be "night & day" difference between them.
Granted the Ensembles are good cables. So the Neotech based cables may not outdo them really.
The Ensembles, while really solid sounding and revealing of lots of subtle niceties, are pretty dry sounding in the upper midrange and treble.
The 3001 are conversely, supposed to be more of a liquid sounding wire.
Hey, as per Duster, it could wind up simply being a case of incompatibility with my gear. I honestly think that either they haven't broken in yet, for some reason.. or something is amiss with them.
It really is a case of "they shouldn't sound this bad."
So thanks for the little push to try to break on through!
I'll post back with how it all goes. I just needed to gauge others who have tried it and vent a touch.Regards, Marc
Edits: 04/29/12
While the Neotech NEI-3001 features a Teflon tape wrap, the actual dielectric design features conductors with an unspecified dielectric (perhaps PE or PVC) and an array of PE (polyethylene) air tubes, of which, while seemingly intended to mitigate dielectric absorption factor, may be a sonic issue vs a Teflon dielectric design (solid, foamed/cellular, or air tubed).
Edits: 04/29/12
Hi Duster, I believe the dielectric for the conductors is Polyethylene.
Yes, according to correspondence with Neotech, the dielectric for the conductors is polyethylene.
Additionally, hybrid conductor designs featuring both solid and stranded conductors, while sounding quite musical (IME), don't tend to present remarkable top end sparkle (also IME). Cable designs tend to have some sonic trade-offs in some way or another -- the best goal is to do no harm while trying to get out of the way of the signal. Whether this is an issue in this case, I do not know (just pondering the matter...).
In your experience would a simple construction (one solid conductor per pole) with minimal dielectric (Teflon) be the best way to go?
For an interconnect between preamp and amp what gauge of wire (per pole) would you recommend for full, wide-band, transfer of musical information?
"In your experience would a simple construction (one solid conductor per pole) with minimal dielectric (Teflon) be the best way to go?"
That's my usual choice, depending on other design factors such as cable vibration control, which I've found to be critical for solid core designs, since solid core conductors tend to ring, which causes audible smearing.
"For an interconnect between preamp and amp what gauge of wire (per pole) would you recommend for full, wide-band, transfer of musical information?"
No larger than 22 AWG for solid core copper, and no larger than 24 AWG for solid core silver. However, smaller solid core copper conductor designs such as the VH Audio Spectrum Cu (which I use between pre and power) featuring single fine gauge solid core 28 AWG wires have a delicacy that is missing in larger gauge designs -- however, larger gauge designs tend to sound like they have more meat on the bones. Again, there are often sonic trade-offs in the world of cables.
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