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In Reply to: RE: REVIEW: Tel Wire Cord Cable posted by Duster on May 24, 2008 at 12:16:05
Very nice Duster-san
Now cable inmates... the very important comparison....
who's gonna do it....
Less Loss vs TEL Wire
Both are similar in concept.
I am really eager to know the verdict.
Jag
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just not at the same time unfortunately. When Liudas from LessLoss was visiting the US he stopped by to demo some cables and his power conditioner. I have to say the immediate thing that strikes me about the cable is the lower noise floor, but while I'm not 100% certain, I believe it is at the expense of rolling off the top end. The Tel Wire, sounds livelier and more tonally balanced, with better frequency extension as well.
To keep this in some perspective the cables were used on a LessLoss DAC 2004 MkII. I now use two Tel Wire cables, one on the DAC and another on the CEC transport slaved to the DAC. As an aside, this combo came to me with a LessLoss custom clock cable for the CEC and one of their digital cables. Just for fun I swapped out the digital cable for my Creative Cable Concepts Silver Bullet. Again the same effect, more livelier sound. In a demo in southern FL a friend of mine noticed the same thing when swapping out the digital cable for one of his favorites. He mentioned to me that LessLoss uses Ferrite clamps on the digital cable which he felt constricted the sound a bit.
Overall the LessLoss cables are some of the quietest I have heard, but not my cup of tea. Like you though, it might be good to hear both cables in a side by side comparison. If anyone lives near Las Vegas I'd be happy to participate in a comparison.
Do you know if the Lessloss power cords use ferrites for the filtering process? I've tried several interconnects and power cords that use ferrites and although ferrite is good for filtering out EMI/RFI, they also somehow filter out some of the music as well. I'd rather take my chances of keeping out RFI/EMI with better shielding and isolation. I'm also curious if the Telwire uses ferrites. As always, YMMV.
> I'm also curious if the Telwire uses ferrites.
No, no ferrites, not a fan of what they do to the sound.
what they use for filtration. It is easier to see the ferrite clamps on the digital cable as it is a much thinner design.
IME, Lessloss power cord has the effect of adding a good power conditioner to the system by itself without an actual power conditioner. If one uses Lessloss cord into power conditioner, one gets the predictable effect of too much filtering, e.g. "rolled off" top end. Lessloss is the only cord I have ever tried that sounds better straight from the wall (vs. my battery-backed pure sine-wave regenerator).
They sounded much better directly into the wall.
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Born again music lover.
Interesting. After your comment I decided to plug my Lessloss PCs connected to a dac and cdp directly into wall socket. Results were spectacularly disappointing - much more crimped, flat, less dynamic, less bass and nowhere near the natural staging of instruments. I plugged the Lessloss PCs back into the Moldwire powerstrip that is connected to Adept Response which is connected to Variac which is connected to wall outlet and the magic returned. The power outlets are dedicated to stereo but even by separating analog and digital I didn't like the wall outlet. I don't know how much is AdeptResponse and how much variac, or how much is just my imagination.
I'm always fascinated by people's experiences with their systems and how different the results can be.
Bob
I use the Alan Maher PE products (not your traditional type of power conditioning) and these were in the system with the LessLoss cable. Funny, Liudas never advised me to take them out and he was standing in the same room I was. I would think if his cables were sensitive to power conditioning he would have mentioned that. Of course we used his cables with the LessLoss power conditioner in my system as well.
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