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Hello everybody! Just a stupid question, probably, but still... Reading a lot of posts here I got very interested by the issue of ac inlets that, as many say here, may definitely improve the sound of the system. So the question is: what if I solder the conductors of my power cord from the power distributor directly to the main lines as I am doing room treatment/remodelling anyway now? No messing with polarity, no connector problems, no inlet faceplate. The connection itself hidden in the wall together with part of the cord itself, everything neat... I am not planning to change this powercord. It is not a question of economy, I am ready to invest in top Oiyade (if I spell it correctly) or Furutech wall receptacle and its faceplate, but maybe it is unnecessary?
Serge.
Follow Ups:
It amazes me that people will put themselves, their families and property at risk for a sonic improvement despite good advice. Go to the link and see what your precious equipment can look like after a fire. Hopefully this will be a reality check.
have to do with "risk for a sonic improvement despite good advice"?
Did you read my explanation below before posting this question ?
perhaps posting a new one with your unrelated topic would have made more sense.
Well that is YOUR opinion and you're entitled to it. Moving on.....
do explain the connection between "the best AC inlet" and wood burning stoves. The relation is anything but obvious.
That's a terrible reality for that family.Read down the thread a bit, the guy explains it was probably caused by a wood stove....
I am aware that the wood stove caused the fire. I didn't say in my original post that the fire was due to wiring. I am a member at that forum and followed the matter closely. The victim was the site administrator. IMO some folks here at AA have that "it will never happen to me" mentality. I was just giving a reality check of what its like to have your prime possessions go up in flames.
messing with AC can be dangerous and lead to fires.a college buddy burned down his off-campus house one x-mas break a decade ago - he had hard wired a bunch of dope growing lights in a 120 yr old house with ancient wiring.
any loss like your friends' experience is tragic, no matter what caused it.
A permanently wired cable being exposed in a living area of a home is a violation of the NEC (National Electric Code.) Such a cable in an exposed area should be in conduit or BX if it is permanently attached to the electrical circuit.The reason for this requirement is that a regular appliance cord or extension cord can be damaged, creating a fire or shock hazard. If plugged in to a wall socket, a damaged cable can be quickly unplugged. If permanently wired, this would require locating the breaker panel, shutting off power and then disassembling the wall circuit to fix the cable. The NEC contemplates that cords in a living area are exposed to a number of hazards that could damage the insulation.
That said, it is not likely you'll find yourself reported to the local building inspector. They generally don't spend much time looking for amateur home wiring violators, though it could be an issue if you sell your house or have an inspection for some other reason.
(Not looking for a debate on the NEC, just trying to pass on some info. What you do in your house is your business.)
Yes the best outlet is no outlet at all.I have done this in the past. Soldered the PC of my AC line balancer directly to the Romex wiring from the AC distribution in the wall. Outlet was removed and heavy duty heatshrink placed over the soldered sections on the wires. The PC was passed thru an outlet cover that just has a hole in it which resulted in a very neat installation. The oultet covers can be bought at your local hardware store.
Sounded WAY better than any outlet could possibly aspire to. I also put ferrite clamps on each leg which dropped the noise floor an appreciable level.
Absolutely NO danger involved if done correctly BUT there is the fact that there is no way to remove the power cord if needed. As for the wire nuts, the soldered connection is WAY more secure assuming that correct soldering methods were implemented.
Yes, some will argue that it is against code BUT the connection, if implemented properly, is much more solid/secure than any outlet/AC male plug.
The ONLY reason I went with Oyaide outlets was they sound almost as good as no outlet and different outlets can be used to tune ones system.
Also, there is the fact that IF there was a house fire, whether it be electrically related or not, I am fairly certain that when the fire inspector seen the direct connection, he would have to side with the insurance company as it is not to code. Therefore, U would most likely be denied any insurance :-(
Cheers,
~kenster
Thanks for reply, Kenster. I live in Russia where the fire codes (requirements) ara also strict but easily neglected by people. We are just sort of "constructed" this way. I have changed all the wiring in my apartment which was alluminium! to a very good copper one without consulting the fire inspector or the house owner. Now I am the owner of my apartment and none gives a **** what I do there if I am not removing basic carrying walls, a balcony and things like that. I also believe, it is not dangerous, because the line is dedicated, besides insurance is not an issue in my case. I also think that the cord can be saved after all. It is 2 meters (> 6 feet) long top of the line Furutech fp alpha-3 DIY snake that I can easily sacrifice an inch or two of when removing. After all it is only 200$ worth and the price of Oyaide receptacle + their beautiful outlet cover is twice more. Also I will have a free Furutech male plug from my pc which is another 100$.
So, if it is good for my system, I guess it is worth to try.
Serge.
Hell, I say go for it then!!I tried the connection with wire nuts and with solder and the soldered connection was better. Just remember if U do use solder, to either use heavy duty heatshrink over the connections or at the very least, electrical tape.
Also, clean the bare solid core copper wire ends with 2000 grit sandpaper before soldering. And while your at it, put a ferrite clamp on each leg, orienting each for the least amount of noise.
Let us know how it turns out,
Hi kenster,Ferrite clamps on each leg may well lower the noise but shirley it increases the inductance of the cable ... and higher L on a PC (just as with a speaker cable) is undesirable bcoz it opposes the current flowing?
Or is my reasoning screwed?
Regards,
Sorry, I really do not know what it is, though I know it somehow reduces some sort of noise/interference and is used on PCs. Also, where do normal people usually buy or "get" it?
Serge.
P.S. Remodelling/treatment adventure is scheduled for January.
Basically, a ferrite clamp will filter out RFI noise from a cable it is clamped around.These can be bought at most electronic supply houses or on-line.
Cheers,
~kenster
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How do you know which direction is correct??
By rotating the clamps in relation to each other.When I had them in place, they would physically vibrate but by twisting them in very small increments in relation to each other, I could stop the vibration(s).
If one does not want to go to this extreme, just placing a clamp around the Earth GND wire will be beneficial.
Cheers,
Thank you, Kenster. Though I have never seen such a beast on sale, I shall call our wire/electrics supply company and order a couple. Hope they have them, otherwise, on-line is the only option.
Serge.
GTF
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Thanks for quick reply. No, there is no danger here as all the work will be undertaken by a professional and very good electrician. I think it is no more dangerous than having the wall receptacle itself.
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As long as it's being handled by a professional, I would say go for it. I would tend to agree with you that there should be very noticable sonic benefits from a move like that.
Grain of Salt caveat: Opinion based off of the limited experience that I've had with AC tweaking in my own system.
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