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In Reply to: RE: OK but posted by Awe-d-o-file on November 26, 2016 at 16:28:42
Thanks, Awe-d-o-file, that is an excellent suggestion. Unfortunately I have what is probably an irrational fear of used equipment.
I think I'm going to step back a bit and grab an NAD375BEE. It'll have the power I'm looking for, save me some money and simplify things.
In the future I can revisit separates and maybe consider a sweet used CJ solid state amp.
I appreciate the input.
Cheers,
Scott
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from another NAD owner. More power and more features, but basically the same dark house sound.
Thanks, E-Stat. That's basically what I'm looking for; more power and the NAD sound. And if I gain a bit in refinement (which I believe I will considering how the large power supply of the C375 will handle the load and drivers of my speaker) that will just be the icing.
While a I would like to be more on the curiosity side of hifi, I just don't have the budget or time to be listening/swapping/selling gear.
Some day I will enjoy trying different amps/pres and such. I would especially like to hear Pass or SS CJ. The Parasound, while well reviewed, I have never cared for. I've listened to the P5, JC2, A23, A21, and JC1s.
Thanks for the reply.
Cheers,
Scott
but don't expect qualities like transparency or soundstaging to improve.
With that power, avoid power strips and plug it directly into the wall. I would suggest investing in a modestly priced aftermarket power cord as well.
Run sources through a conditioner for RFI/EMI rejection.
I'm resigned to parallel and passive filtering for high current devices.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
Sounds good. I'll be using it with a WireWorld Stratus PC into a Porter Port Hubbell outlet. I have my sources plugged into an APC H15. Thanks for the tips.
Cheers,
Scott
As above :-)
Get a Pass labs/Firstwatt Likely the Last Amp you will ever want.
As a pre IF you want one? .. Buy 10k Cheap Chinese Dact 'clone attentuator (s), wire them into a Passdiy.com B1 buffer (~50$)
And never give amplifications a further thought.
Imo :-) B&W speakers Ain't the world's best.
So those may then show up as being limited though.
G luck
Edits: 11/28/16
Well, with my speaker budget none of my options would be considered "worlds best". I only considered speakers I could easily demo.
I listened to Golden Ear Triton Sevens, PSB X2T, Monitor Audio Silver 8 and my 683 S2s. I almost went with the MA Sliver 8s but they cost 20% more are harder to drive and the B&Ws for me had better bass (quality and quantity) and the treble was more to my liking. The MAs had a sweeter mid-range though.
Cheers,
Scott
I have a pair of MA RX2. Very nice but not as natural sounding.
So far the best speaker I've had are my SR-71. Opps did I mention them again. If I mention them again I'll be banned!
Are you in the market for DIY kits. What kind of music do you listen to? If it's Jazz and rock you should check out the A26 kit over at Madisound.
Thanks, airtime. No DIY at this time but I'd like to in the future. Over the years I have eyed that A26 a few times . I love that 10" woofer.
I think my first DIY speaker would be more this speed though:
Cheers,
Scott
I wish I had the room to use those.
Take your time with speakers. I auditioned a number of them and the MA were good, actually the best in that showroom. But my SR-71 are just perfect and my MA sit in a closet. I understand you want full range. Best of luck finding them and DO let us know what you end up with.
I can't speak for the C375 which I didn't recommend but the C275 separate is a definite step up. I think the weak link in the NAD is their choice of preamp voicing. A taste thing that I personally don't love nor hate. The separate amp doesn't have that problem.
Hey, Charles. If I keep reading your replies I still might end up with the C275BEE.;-)
I do feel if I go with the C375BEE I'll be ok. When I added the deHavilland tube pre to my C320BEE I felt it was very transparent. I had all the qualities I loved from that 320BEE amp section combined with the huge tone, richness, and resolution from that sweet deHavilland pre.
Cheers,
Scott
you're constantly looking for new amps. Go figure. :)
Ever hear a first rate SS Pass Labs, C-J or Parasound Halo amp in your system?
I gave up collecting amps for now. I was considering buying one but what I have really is quite good "to me".
Actually if anything I may look for another preamp to roll in and out of the system. Currently I'm using a Conrad Johnson Classic SE that is QUITE transparent and I do like it. However I may want something a tad "softer" for a change up. But I do NOT plan on letting go of the CJ or any of my current gear because I do like it.
I like to rotate (not sell) my gear and sound on occasion. I don't understand someone having one system and living with it forever and never wanting to try something else - Now THAT seems strange to me.
But I agree having several for different areas of the house and garage. And one for HT.
I gather the answer to my question is no.
As for hearing a range of gear, I'll agree again. Having said that, I don't find value in comparing lots of lateral choices. My curiosity went beyond that. I listened to about a dozen exceptional amps including Pass Labs, Edge, ASL, ASR, VTL, Audio Research, Parasound, Atma Sphere and Joule Electra most of which were clearly out of my budget so that I understood what was possible. If budget wasn't a consideration, I think a pair of Siegfrieds or Xs300s would do quite nicely on the stats.
Then I made my decision. Now I enjoy the music. :)
Sell me! What is the difference between the NAD C275BEE and a First Watt F7(10k input) or F6(100k input)
If you can convince me I'll buy one next month to replace the NAD in the summer (110 degree summer) solid state amp rotation. GO!
What is the difference between the NAD C275BEE and a First Watt F7(10k input) or F6(100k input)I cannot speak to those lower powered Pass designs, only that of Threshold and Pass Labs. The equivalent model in terms of power would the the X-150 series of which there were three, the latest being the "point 8".
Sonic differences? Better low level resolution, dynamic punch, midrange clarity and top end extension. Don't get me wrong - NAD offers a great value for the money but is outclassed in terms of refinement by top tier products like this. A friend of mine just purchased an X-250.5 and is thrilled with it. Reno Hi-Fi sells used models with fully factory warranties for good prices. Worried about buying used? My 1981 Threshold Stasis offered over thirty years of trouble free use (driving reactive stats) before I sold it. These amps are hand built to a higher level of quality than you find with NAD.
Auditioning one of these might end your quest for better. :)
edit: If you'd like to see the guts, click here .
Edits: 11/29/16
The Xs-150 and 300 look great!!!! but out of my price range as well. I was checking out the integrated INT-60 thou. $7k is the tippy top I could swing. The Reno site IS a big help - thanks.
The Xs-150 and 300 look great!!!! but out of my price range as well.
Well, $65k-$85k is out of most folk's budget! I gather you get the double entendre of the model designation: "ex-cess".
Note that Reno has an X-150.8 for under $5k. I would prefer using a power amp with a good tube preamp. Which is exactly what I did in 1981 when I matched an Audio Research SP-6 with my Stasis 3 to drive Acoustat 2+2s.
I"m using a CJ Classic 2SE preamp as I type this. Sweet it ain't. Razor sharp and almost completely transparent it IS!!
However properly matched to a warmer amp like my VTA ST-70 using Gold Lion KT88 output tubes - magic!
I may??? also match it up with a McIntosh MC152 for the summer months being tubes will cook you here in Arizona.
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