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In Reply to: RE: Connections Question posted by Mike 371 on August 04, 2016 at 19:24:26
OK you're pretty close but I will give you my opinion on this.First I assume since you are running 5ch through an HT receiver you also have a subwoofer. If not you can get a lot better bass by spending the money you paid for the Outlaw and the Behringer on a sub or subs than they could ever help you get from just the Kefs.
There is other stuff going on too. HT receivers have a crossover built in. Are you running the front Kefs as full range or large or small? This makes a big difference in the bass response. I didnt see you mention this.
Finally if for some reason you do end up using the Behringer and the Outlaw you should really connect it via its digital in from the HT receivers digital out. But this is only if you can set the Onkyo receivers digital output to 2ch PCM. You'll have to read the manual.The Behringer has 1/4" outputs besides xlr so you can use quarter inch to RCA cables going to the Outlaw. Don't worry about using xlr/balanced there really is zero benefit in your set up. Some say even in the best scenario the benefit of balanced is small or none. You'll hear many opinions on this.
The bottom line? Forget getting the Kefs to have the best bass possible. Use subs for that. If you are already running sub's properly setup and had the perfect bass coming from the Kefs with the cube you probably couldn't hear the differnce anyway.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
Edits: 08/05/16 08/05/16 08/05/16Follow Ups:
Thanks for the responses. Awe-d-o-file, I just received the Onkyo TX-RZ800 and have not yet read the manual, I didn't even think about setting the speaker size... I'm not sure which setting I should choose, I'm a novice with this stuff, have basically learned everything I know over the last couple weeks.
I do have a "cheap" Polk PSW10 sub but am planning on upgrading to a SVS SB2000 once I have the funds. Maybe that's where I should start instead of with the power amp and equalizer. Other opinions still welcome.
btw, seems like most out there agree with you, there's no real benefit to balanced over unbalanced for my application. Time to read the owners manual to see what I can and can't do with this new HT Receiver.
I found it in the advanced section of the manual. I recommend you read the manual thoroughly. There are crossover settings and set the receiver to operate at 5.1, cross the Kefs at 80 and the center and rears at 120 to start and go from there. Also if the Kefs are four ohm use the Onkyos 6 ohm setting. Good luck.
ET
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
Well, like every well thought out plan, the plans have hit a snag. Given the size of the Onkyo TX-RZ800, I have very little room for the power amp and Eq... putting either outside the storage space isn't an option (wife's rules) so I'm on to plan B.
The Behringer Ultra-Curve Pro is 1.75" and I have about 6" available so I'm looking at slim stereo amps. Once again, I'm drawn to Outlaw, the monoblock 2200. I'm also considering the Crown XLI 1500, but that seems to be a live music amp, not necessarily good for home audio. According to the specs, it'll all fit and I have extra ventilation so air flow and heat dispersement shouldn't be a problem. My question is simple, since the Outlaw monoblock amps (I'd have ot purchase 2, one for each speaker) have an RCA and XLR inputs, do I connect 2 XLR cables, one from the Behringer to the first monoblock amp and then repeat (or simply connect a single RCA cable from the Eq's left and right channels with one going to each of the amps)? If I'm understanding things correctly, I then run the speaker wires to each of my front speakers, correct?
I'm not ignoring the power subwoofer suggestion, I intend to improve that situation as well by replacing the Polk PSW10, just taking my time, learning as much as I can and considering all my options. Replacing my receiver alone made a tremendous difference in the sound of my Kef's.
I figure I can connect the fronts through the Eq and the monoblock amps and then connect everything else to the TX-RZ800 and let that drive the other speakers in my system.
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