In Reply to: Extended Frequency Range: Effect on Perceived Speaker Sound posted by tlyyra on April 19, 2007 at 05:22:55:
...the way we perceive sound is very complex.When a small change is made at one fequency, it affects our perception of other frequencies, sometimes in the opposite end of the frequency spectrum.
You can experiment with this if you have a speaker with tweeter or supertweeter controls.
This seems to occur even if the added information is outside the normal audible hearing range.
When people add supertweeters, they usually report an increase in sound quality overall including the bass frequencies.
Oohashi, IIRC, a Japanese researcher, presented a paper some years ago showing that adding frequency information above 20KHz increased the subjective listening enjoyment of his test subjects.
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Follow Ups
- Psychoacoustics... - mkuller 11:04:41 04/19/07 (45)
- Shaky research and logic - Richard BassNut Greene 12:35:09 04/20/07 (8)
- Which part is the shaky research and logic? - tlyyra 15:10:12 04/20/07 (7)
- Re: Which part is the shaky research and logic? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:33:12 04/21/07 (6)
- Re: Which part is the shaky research and logic? - tlyyra 11:42:57 04/21/07 (5)
- How dare you misunderstand my post and then insult me for no reason! - Richard BassNut Greene 07:32:46 04/23/07 (4)
- Re: How dare you misunderstand my post and then insult me for no reason! - tlyyra 10:41:34 04/23/07 (3)
- The air is an excellent ultra-high-frequency absorber -- the data measured at 4 feet from a trumpet are meaningless ... - Richard BassNut Greene 09:22:38 04/24/07 (2)
- The issues, once more - tlyyra 03:04:57 04/25/07 (1)
- I responded to mkuller: "When people add supertweeters, they usually report an increase in sound quality " - Richard BassNut Greene 08:20:59 04/25/07 (0)
- But why? - tlyyra 17:12:27 04/19/07 (35)
- Thanks for the good pointers - tlyyra 11:27:11 04/20/07 (0)
- Try here... - mkuller 19:58:05 04/19/07 (28)
- Dumb Study - Richard BassNut Greene 12:48:01 04/20/07 (27)
- You didn't read it - tlyyra 14:06:59 04/20/07 (24)
- Re: it's frequently cited in serious studies - KlausR. 07:56:30 04/21/07 (8)
- Oohashi - tlyyra 11:28:47 04/21/07 (7)
- Re: Oohashi - Kal Rubinson 15:00:37 04/24/07 (4)
- Not so fast - tlyyra 09:01:10 04/25/07 (3)
- Right: Not so fast - Kal Rubinson 14:07:10 04/25/07 (2)
- Re: Right: Not so fast - tlyyra 16:54:08 04/25/07 (1)
- Re: Right: Not so fast - Kal Rubinson 18:50:12 04/25/07 (0)
- Re: Oohashi - KlausR. 08:30:47 04/22/07 (1)
- Some refs. - tlyyra 13:37:34 04/22/07 (0)
- Didn't have to read much to recognize trash -- and here's why --- - Richard BassNut Greene 07:26:28 04/21/07 (14)
- Re: Didn't have to read much to recognize trash -- and here's why --- - morricab 08:05:11 04/25/07 (1)
- Brain scans are not proxies for what we hear when listening to music - Richard BassNut Greene 08:32:32 04/25/07 (0)
- Re: Didn't have to read much to recognize trash -- and here's why --- - David Aiken 13:53:27 04/21/07 (11)
- Frequencies below 15kHz. mask the audibility of frequencies above 15kHz. assuming they are audible at all - Richard BassNut Greene 07:57:50 04/23/07 (10)
- Re: Frequencies below 15kHz. mask the audibility of frequencies above 15kHz. assuming they are audible at all - David Aiken 14:04:51 04/23/07 (9)
- Where are the data to prove listeners could hear a difference with and w/o the ultra high frequencies? - Richard BassNut Greene 09:38:35 04/24/07 (8)
- Are these biases? - David Aiken 19:00:57 04/24/07 (7)
- They are if the study is to correlate with people visiting this website and the typical music they listen to - Richard BassNut Greene 08:46:36 04/25/07 (4)
- Re: They are if the study is to correlate with people visiting this website and the typical music they listen to - David Aiken 16:37:15 04/26/07 (3)
- Because the study results were used by someone here to support the purchase of supertweeters by someone else here! - Richard BassNut Greene 07:38:53 04/28/07 (1)
- Re: Because the study results were used by someone here to support the purchase of supertweeters by someone else here! - David Aiken 13:31:08 04/28/07 (0)
- Like we used to say in the seminary - tlyyra 01:20:24 04/27/07 (0)
- Re: Are these biases? - morricab 08:01:55 04/25/07 (0)
- Exactly - tlyyra 01:28:16 04/25/07 (0)
- Re: Dumb Post - Sordidman 14:06:03 04/20/07 (1)
- "No one can prove anything" is your brilliant conclusion? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:18:55 04/21/07 (0)
- Re: But why? - Pat D 18:27:19 04/19/07 (3)
- Re : intermodulation - KlausR. 08:33:01 04/21/07 (1)
- Re: Re : intermodulation - Pat D 17:24:28 04/23/07 (0)
- Excellent point from a good source. - Richard BassNut Greene 07:28:15 04/21/07 (0)
- Re: But why? - 20Hz 18:21:53 04/19/07 (0)