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Music Lane It's all about the music, dude! Sit down, relax and listen to some tunes. |
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Summary: Go with Schmid/Lintu Ondine, just turn it up.
I first fell in love with this late 20th C masterpiece when the Boulez/Ensemble Intercontemporain was released over a decade (!) ago. The orchestration is fantastic and Ligeti's musical ideas are compelling, to me at least.After comparing Lintu with Pintscher, I prefer the Lintu in every respect. Surprisingly, today's Ensemble Intercontemporain under Pintscher just doesn't seem completely comfortable with Ligeti's rhythms and accents. I don't sense that they've internalized the music. Both violinist (Conquer) and orchestra are recorded in sound that's a bit grainy and up-close, not very flattering when the poor brass are asked to play in natural harmonics and don't get me started on closely-mic'd ocarinas!
Turning to Lintu/Schmid, I was very pleased with the way the orchestra nails Ligeti's off-beat xlylophone strikes at the beginning. When the orchestra is relaxed, the listener is relaxed. Although the sound needs to be turned way up, (11 o'clock on my amp vs normal 9 o'clock), the more distant mic pickup allows Ligeti's extremely atmospheric and delectable sounds to converse with the hall a bit before hitting the ear. IMHO the violinst Schmid mines much more of the poetry and "soul" from the piece as compared to Conquer, especially during the 2nd mov't. All is not gentle: the more percussive stretches startle and resound, as they should. Ensemble Intercontemporain's drum is a bit flat and dull in comparison.
Edits: 10/14/16
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Topic - Ligeti Violin Concerto Lintu/Schmid on Ondine vs Conquer/Pintscher on Alpha - jdaniel@jps.net 10:25:52 10/14/16 (42)
- Thanks for the rec! - Russell 01:08:38 10/17/16 (27)
- Just don't forget, it needs to be turned up until you can hear the opening violin solo, nothing follows that - jdaniel@jps.net 07:22:36 10/17/16 (26)
- Spoken like someone who ... - rbolaw 10:01:09 10/18/16 (2)
- Headphone Music.... - Ivan303 21:03:40 10/18/16 (0)
- RE: Spoken like someone who ... - jdaniel@jps.net 19:24:46 10/18/16 (0)
- Breain? Yes! Speakers? Nah... - Ivan303 08:14:24 10/17/16 (22)
- Sounds like fun! (nt) - Russell 22:25:07 10/17/16 (21)
- Get Jdaniel to drive down for the day... - Ivan303 21:06:23 10/18/16 (20)
- love to see your speakers in person. Ocean City. Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 09:51:10 10/19/16 (19)
- They're great to look at... - Ivan303 19:19:36 10/19/16 (18)
- "sound like crap" - Chris from Lafayette 21:50:48 10/19/16 (17)
- He can't make upgrades without first getting permission from the National Fog Horn Preservation Society. Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 10:40:15 10/20/16 (2)
- All 'processes' are slow... - Ivan303 13:39:41 10/20/16 (1)
- tell me about it! nt - jdaniel@jps.net 17:53:36 10/20/16 (0)
- Just setting some expectations.... - Ivan303 07:25:33 10/20/16 (13)
- I'm free on the 23rd, not the 22nd [nt[ - Chris from Lafayette 08:52:19 10/20/16 (12)
- Sunday works for me... - Ivan303 13:38:10 10/20/16 (11)
- I apologize - Sunday's not going to work now [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 01:08:24 10/22/16 (1)
- We'll round up everyone at a later date... - Ivan303 12:25:28 10/22/16 (0)
- "jdaniel claims to be busy 'working'" - Chris from Lafayette 09:19:24 10/21/16 (8)
- RE: "jdaniel claims to be busy 'working'" - jdaniel@jps.net 12:16:40 10/21/16 (7)
- Well. . . that's where our mystery guest and I disagree with you ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 17:45:56 10/21/16 (6)
- Lucky for us, there's at least 20 high res Rites from which to choose. - jdaniel@jps.net 18:53:07 10/21/16 (5)
- The "indiscriminate banging" is your conceit - not reality [nt] ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 00:53:51 10/22/16 (4)
- (BTW - I mean something like a poetic conceit, not chutzpah!) [nt] - Chris from Lafayette 01:11:09 10/22/16 (3)
- No worries, one man's indiscriminate banging is another man's Shostakovich 7th. : ) nt - jdaniel@jps.net 09:45:50 10/22/16 (2)
- indiscriminate banging- OK, that's enough about your Sex Life...! nt - oldmkvi 13:43:30 10/29/16 (1)
- Ha ha. At my age, "indiscriminate banging" usually involves stubborn pill bottles and bathroom sink edges. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 16:59:12 10/29/16 (0)
- Streaming the Conquer/Pintscher on Alpha... - Ivan303 12:59:08 10/14/16 (11)
- "Hard to like...." True, but - jdaniel@jps.net 13:40:43 10/14/16 (10)
- Really? Do you hear the influence of - rbolaw 17:31:09 10/14/16 (0)
- If that kind of music ever got under my skin... - Ivan303 14:50:10 10/14/16 (8)
- It's just a little to the right of Bartok; some beautiful tonal moments - jdaniel@jps.net 17:24:32 10/14/16 (7)
- OK, Maybe.... - Ivan303 20:13:16 10/14/16 (6)
- Ivan, it's on Tidal... - srl1 06:45:57 10/15/16 (5)
- DAng! - Ivan303 07:03:04 10/15/16 (4)
- Don't pay for it or I'll feel guily. nt - jdaniel@jps.net 07:52:05 10/15/16 (3)
- Well THAT'S over, thankfully... - Ivan303 10:33:42 10/15/16 (1)
- : ) Sorry I couldn't win you over. Nt - jdaniel@jps.net 11:46:02 10/15/16 (0)
- I have TIDAL so I have to listen to the Lintu/Schmid version now.... - Ivan303 08:12:26 10/15/16 (0)
- Heard it live once - TGR 10:57:50 10/14/16 (1)
- RE: Heard it live once - jdaniel@jps.net 15:02:50 10/15/16 (0)
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