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In Reply to: One of those albums that if I never heard it again in this lifetime that would be fine with me. posted by Palustris on January 20, 2022 at 09:16:32:
I gotta say your characterization of the music as "pablum intended to introduce the R&R audience to jazz." is just plain mistaken. Can you site other jazz albums pre-KOB that were based on modal music? Good luck finding some. With the music on KOB Miles not only influenced the harmonic direction of jazz he also influenced virtually all pop idioms.
Palustris, its certainly not my goal to insult you nor am I in the habit of posting to criticize inmates' personal taste in music. After all the intervening years and recordings KOB is definitely NOT my fave Miles recording. I've always found the audiophool fascination with every f'ing new mastering/pressing of KOB (as well as Brubeck's Time Out) to be pretty lame. But man, at the time it was released KOB was damn near revolutionary, hardly pablum. Off the top of my head I can't think of any jazz/pop/rock music that wasn't based on II/V harmony or blues progressions or both prior to KOB. Since KOB there've been a billion recordings based on modal music.
KOB was recorded in '59. Miles was over a decade away from making any kind of inroads at all with r&r audiences. His groups worked in jazz clubs and at jazz festivals, not at venues like the Fillmore. KOB was not something played on rock stations. Miles and his sidemen still wore suits at gigs.
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Follow Ups
- Jeez. I sure don't care that you never wanna hear KOB again. But..... - Rick W 13:16:56 01/20/22 (7)
- RE: Jeez. I never wanna hear KOB again. - Palustris 09:14:33 01/21/22 (1)
- "I personally have moved on in the last 50 years." - Dave Pogue 13:09:29 01/21/22 (0)
- George Russell's "New York, New York", for one. But I believe he championed the idiom. mt - viridian 14:19:10 01/20/22 (4)
- Also released in '59 and his system is based on one mode, Lydian. Good point though. nt - Rick W 14:43:43 01/20/22 (3)
- Recording started in '58 but continued into '59. Do you think.. - viridian 15:04:18 01/20/22 (2)
- Ya got me. I think he was always a respected guy among musicians. nt - Rick W 17:16:24 01/20/22 (1)
- Thank you. nt - viridian 19:43:19 01/20/22 (0)
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