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In Reply to: RE: Tried two different browsers - video unavailable [nt] posted by Eldragon on September 21, 2020 at 11:27:29:
. . . and is certainly one of the more rational voices around when it comes to HIPsters vs. vibrato! ;-) In fact, I appreciate how he belittles Snorrington's claims that the Bruno Walter / VPO recording is played with no vibrato in the strings. WRONG, Roger! - according to the audible evidence was well as Walter's own recollections. You would think that a conductor like Snorrington, who clearly cannot hear what's actually on these old recordings, would have fallen into disrepute by now, but I guess the "anti-vibrato deep state" (thanks for the term, tin!) must be managing to find ways to keep him on life support. Disgusting really.Having said that though, I want to point out that Dave's top choices for the Mahler Ninth are not my choices, although he does acknowledge that a large number of conductors have made magnificent recordings of this work, and I agree with that assessment. I recently posted about the Exton MCh remaster of the Neumann/CzPO recording, originally on the Canyon label (not the earlier Denon/Supraphon, which is also great IMHO). I prefer The Neumann/Exton album to Dave's CzPO choice of Ancerl/Supraphon - I'm not saying that Ancerl is bad by any means, but Neumann's modern engineering really tips the balance for me and it allows us to hear the incredibly beautiful string tone which Neumann coaxes out of the orchestra. Interestingly, the original issue of the Ancerl recording in the US, on the Crossroads label, had an editing mistake on it, which cut out a short section of the work and which was mentioned in the ARG review at the time - I assume Supraphon corrected this long ago.
Finally, I love how Dave is sitting in front of a big gong - his favorite instrument in the orchestra (and which is never played loud enough for him on recordings!). ;-)
Edits: 09/21/20
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- Oh - OK! Yes, Dave is well known on this forum. . . - Chris from Lafayette 13:45:42 09/21/20 (9)
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- Ancerl's Mahler 9 - pbarach 15:03:22 09/21/20 (1)
- Yup - that's the one I had too ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 17:51:58 09/21/20 (0)