RE: "I hear it" doesn't constitute proof.

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Topic - Cables Asylum - daleda 17:36:38 01/19/15 (136)

RE: Cables Asylum - thebordas 14:39:15 01/26/15 (0)

RE: Cables Asylum - fantja 04:12:32 01/21/15 (80)

The problems with folks ranting on about DBT and all calbes sound the same rants - Nuit 16:38:18 01/21/15 (79)

RE: The problems with folks ranting on about DBT and all calbes sound the same rants - Todd Krieger 00:57:30 01/24/15 (0)

Isn't it amazing how much virtual ink is spilled - E-Stat 07:00:52 01/23/15 (0)

Have you considered the case where you take what you wrote... - Steve O 18:40:54 01/21/15 (76)

I'm not sure if you noticed the slight difference: - carcass93 19:00:04 01/21/15 (75)

RE: I'm not sure if you noticed the slight difference: - pictureguy 20:06:13 01/22/15 (0)

RE: I'm not sure if you noticed the slight difference: - josh358 13:10:26 01/22/15 (12)

Ahh... "cables as tone controls" argument. - carcass93 13:38:57 01/22/15 (11)

RE: Ahh... "cables as tone controls" argument. - josh358 18:10:43 01/22/15 (10)

RE: Ahh... "cables as tone controls" argument. - Sordidman 19:14:26 01/22/15 (9)

RE: Ahh... "cables as tone controls" argument. - josh358 19:29:19 01/22/15 (8)

You're talking about the act of listening, and experiences - Sordidman 19:51:32 01/22/15 (7)

RE: You're talking about the act of listening, and experiences - josh358 07:31:34 01/23/15 (6)

Nicely put!... - Steve O 13:08:28 01/23/15 (1)

RE: Nicely put!... - josh358 19:40:54 01/25/15 (0)

I mostly agree with what you wrote: FWIW, and... - Sordidman 10:21:19 01/23/15 (1)

RE: I mostly agree with what you wrote: FWIW, and... - josh358 12:38:23 01/23/15 (0)

Confirmation bias, and maybe another thing too.. - genungo 08:55:16 01/23/15 (1)

RE: Confirmation bias, and maybe another thing too.. - josh358 09:42:13 01/23/15 (0)

"Believe" is most definitely an appropriate term... - Steve O 21:47:13 01/21/15 (60)

Perhaps you should consult a dictionary? -t - Sordidman 09:44:16 01/22/15 (52)

Perhaps I did... - Steve O 10:56:48 01/22/15 (51)

Scientific, observational testing is not belief - Sordidman 11:29:50 01/22/15 (50)

Same tired arguments... - Steve O 12:55:20 01/22/15 (49)

trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something. - Sordidman 13:36:35 01/22/15 (9)

RE: trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something. - Steve O 16:11:18 01/22/15 (8)

RE: trust, faith, or confidence in someone or something. - Sordidman 17:38:39 01/22/15 (7)

And what about those that have extensive experience and claim cables don't matter? - kuribo 06:11:43 01/23/15 (6)

RE: And what about those that have extensive experience and claim cables don't matter? - Sordidman 09:23:59 01/23/15 (5)

Here's a start.... - kuribo 16:13:11 01/23/15 (4)

I predict... - Steve O 20:21:53 01/23/15 (3)

See - you DO get it. But it's all irrelevant anyway. - carcass93 09:11:27 01/24/15 (1)

And you get it too! (nt) - Steve O 10:41:43 01/24/15 (0)

But of course....nt - kuribo 21:08:00 01/23/15 (0)

"Same tired arguments"? Does that mean that you consider yours exploring some new terrains? - carcass93 13:06:25 01/22/15 (38)

Hey, you can believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny and that's fine but... - Markw* 13:26:10 01/22/15 (37)

Convince? "Discerning masses" (that's hilarious, BTW)? No intention whatsoever. N/T - carcass93 13:32:53 01/22/15 (36)

Perhaps "skeptical" would have been more appropriate? - Markw* 13:45:57 01/22/15 (35)

Observational application of the scientific method - Sordidman 15:32:02 01/22/15 (34)

Face it, that's just your way of saying it's an opinion that cannot be proven scientifically? - Markw* 16:34:47 01/22/15 (26)

No, it's your minority viewpoint of denigrating scientific discovery - Sordidman 16:41:36 01/22/15 (25)

So, you'r esaying it's a proven fact? - Markw* 16:54:35 01/22/15 (24)

You know Elvis? You must be a faith guy..... - Sordidman 17:43:58 01/22/15 (23)

"I hear it" doesn't constitute proof. - Markw* 01:26:41 01/23/15 (22)

Actually, - along with measurements, and physical differences - Sordidman 09:35:18 01/23/15 (3)

Just because you claim to hear something doesn't make it real. - Markw* 10:15:43 01/23/15 (2)

Oh yes it does: further, it is beyond pompous to claim that - Sordidman 10:42:08 01/23/15 (1)

Been there, done that. - Markw* 13:55:32 01/23/15 (0)

RE: "I hear it" doesn't constitute proof. - Dave_K 06:41:40 01/23/15 (17)

FWIW: Agree with all that you said -t - Sordidman 09:37:59 01/23/15 (0)

RE: "I hear it" doesn't constitute proof. - Markw* 07:25:37 01/23/15 (15)

The intolerant dogma preacher accusing others of dogma - Sordidman 09:39:28 01/23/15 (8)

Hey, you're free to believe what you want to believe. - Markw* 10:13:31 01/23/15 (7)

You're the dictator, telling everyone that they can't hear - Sordidman 10:46:52 01/23/15 (6)

No, you're the one telling them what they should hear. - Markw* 13:53:08 01/23/15 (5)

Cite it, - copy & paste where I said it... Prove it!! LULZ -t - Sordidman 15:29:32 01/23/15 (4)

Seems you can win $1million by proving you can discern a difference- contact James Randi...go for it! nt - kuribo 16:14:44 01/23/15 (1)

C'mon boys: let's get together for a listening Par-Tay -t - Sordidman 16:38:35 01/23/15 (0)

I'm a BIG believer in power cables NOW!....... - audiophile919 15:53:18 01/23/15 (1)

Well then more power to ya. - Markw* 17:21:43 01/23/15 (0)

Does "I see it" constitute proof? - genungo 09:36:12 01/23/15 (5)

As many illusionists have proven, that's not necessarily so. - Markw* 10:11:48 01/23/15 (3)

RE: As many illusionists have proven - genungo 10:59:47 01/23/15 (1)

"How many illusionists do you think there are, lurking in the shadows waiting to fool us?" - Markw* 17:23:35 01/23/15 (0)

"any many people hear things that aren't so" - Sordidman 10:48:58 01/23/15 (0)

Exactly right...... - Sordidman 09:44:57 01/23/15 (0)

RE: Observational application of the scientific method - Steve O 16:20:07 01/22/15 (6)

Listen to a system in context with several different cables in place: easy -t - Sordidman 16:43:32 01/22/15 (5)

Does that answer my question?... - Steve O 17:31:47 01/22/15 (4)

Yes: very well thank you. While you're looking things up - Sordidman 17:47:57 01/22/15 (3)

Before embarking on a journey of personal discovery... - Steve O 18:06:41 01/22/15 (2)

Not! and especially not an either/or dichotomy - Sordidman 18:51:39 01/22/15 (1)

RE: Not! and especially not an either/or dichotomy - Sprezza Tura 18:54:35 01/22/15 (0)

RE: "Believe" is most definitely an appropriate term... - rick_m 22:39:27 01/21/15 (6)

RE: "Believe" is most definitely an appropriate term... - geoffkait 04:44:50 01/22/15 (5)

You've got a Bose Wave CD too? Cool! (nt) - Steve O 08:23:49 01/22/15 (3)

Would you believe I have a Bose Walkman CD Player? Would you believe it sounds good? I'm not hot doggin ya. - geoffkait 10:14:29 01/22/15 (2)

Now you get to tell people what they can, and can't hear :-) -t - Sordidman 17:49:20 01/22/15 (1)

Hmmmm, I guess that's true. ;-). Nt - geoffkait 04:15:39 01/23/15 (0)

RE: "Believe" is most definitely an appropriate term... - rick_m 06:54:53 01/22/15 (0)

I think this is a false flag operation just to get more participants at Cable Asylum - stehno 21:34:42 01/20/15 (1)

"Surely we're all familiar with false flag operations, right?"... - Steve O 08:41:56 01/21/15 (0)

If you want to offer your thoughts - E-Stat 14:53:37 01/20/15 (0)

WAH! - Awe-d-o-file 12:54:25 01/20/15 (2)

RE: WAH! - daleda 20:03:43 01/20/15 (1)

"I heard tin foil hats work well too!"... nope... - musetap 21:18:59 01/20/15 (0)

RE: Cables Asylum - alan m. kafton 12:02:02 01/20/15 (1)

RE: Cables Asylum - Awe-d-o-file 14:34:32 01/20/15 (0)

If you want to argue about cables, feel free to do so here. - The Bored 10:34:47 01/20/15 (0)

RE: Cables Asylum - Mike K 09:39:21 01/20/15 (0)

Just avoid the Cables Asylum - Markw* 09:18:41 01/20/15 (6)

"They are best left alone"... - Steve O 09:44:16 01/20/15 (5)

If the bored applies the rules evenly, outside of that forum you can say they are FOS legally. - Markw* 09:47:49 01/20/15 (2)

Interesting definition of equality, to say the least. - carcass93 11:02:26 01/20/15 (1)

Hey, iyworks. If they wish to make asholes of themselves, they are free to, - Markw* 14:02:08 01/20/15 (0)

sounds like you need better cables! - bullethead 09:47:01 01/20/15 (1)

I don't need no stinkin' cables...I got a Bose wave CD (nt) - Steve O 09:51:58 01/20/15 (0)

RE: Cables Asylum - davem1 09:17:10 01/20/15 (0)

RE: Cables Asylum - Todd Krieger 08:55:59 01/20/15 (0)

Did you refuse to pay for the pair you were sent as required audio paraphenalia? - Nuit 08:01:22 01/20/15 (0)

I'm sorry, I must have missed that memo. - Justlisten2 03:45:05 01/20/15 (0)

Its weird experiencing jerks and fanatics on the other end too. Ive been to other audio sites and... - 2chJunkie 23:20:51 01/19/15 (0)

RE: That's the area where this hobby borderlines with supernatural... - Eldragon 21:13:22 01/19/15 (0)

Don't go there - it's that simple. - carcass93 19:50:43 01/19/15 (13)

RE: Don't go there - it's that simple. - bullethead 20:26:56 01/19/15 (12)

Listen... we're both here for a really long time. Why would someone pick on $399, or whatever it was, jumpers? - carcass93 20:33:58 01/19/15 (11)

Actually....... - Winston Smith 21:03:41 01/19/15 (9)

Excellent comment. Thank you. nt - Nuit 08:03:59 01/20/15 (0)

RE: Actually....... - Inmate51 06:30:25 01/20/15 (0)

RE: Actually....... - RGA 21:57:22 01/19/15 (6)

RE: Actually....... - thebordas 14:57:12 01/27/15 (0)

RE: Actually....... - rick_m 08:41:10 01/20/15 (0)

double blind doesn't matter it is the belief - bullethead 05:05:25 01/20/15 (3)

RE: double blind doesn't matter it is the belief - uncle mag 12:36:12 01/20/15 (2)

nuclear powered cars and houses I say - bullethead 14:44:01 01/20/15 (1)

RE: nuclear powered cars and houses I say - uncle mag 15:21:29 01/20/15 (0)

The immediate presence of felt experience - bullethead 20:37:13 01/19/15 (0)

Yes, I deleted your post... - Rod M 19:32:52 01/19/15 (16)

RE: Yes, I deleted your post... - fantja 15:58:15 01/20/15 (1)

Nothing in common with sales-driven Audiogon forums - but much greater danger is.... - carcass93 11:09:27 01/21/15 (0)

RE: Yes, I deleted your post... - daleda 11:05:26 01/20/15 (11)

Go save someone else - Jon Risch 21:48:27 01/20/15 (10)

RE: Go save someone else - daleda 11:58:23 01/21/15 (0)

RE: Go save someone else - Garg0yle 07:15:29 01/21/15 (5)

I discovered Cardas Parsec made a big jump in performance over my old 'performance' cables - Nuit 10:45:59 01/21/15 (4)

+1. For the life of mine, I wouldn't understand why someone.... - carcass93 10:59:48 01/21/15 (3)

RE: +1. For the life of mine, I wouldn't understand why someone.... - Garg0yle 11:24:25 01/21/15 (2)

Ever think of applying some reason to your comments? - Sordidman 09:43:19 01/22/15 (0)

Loose (vs tight) screws HAVE been discussed in DIY/Tweaks. (yes they make a difference) nt - Nuit 12:19:22 01/21/15 (0)

Maybe because the car actually does something? - kuribo 06:38:40 01/21/15 (2)

"bash class D in the amps forum" - perhaps..... - carcass93 10:08:09 01/21/15 (1)

"shoving them down everyone's throat"....LOL, yeah, right....nt - kuribo 14:09:29 01/21/15 (0)

No - bullethead 19:35:11 01/19/15 (1)

LOL! :-) (Nt.) - Winston Smith 21:04:55 01/19/15 (0)

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RE: "I hear it" doesn't constitute proof. - Markw* 07:25:37 01/23/15 (15)

The intolerant dogma preacher accusing others of dogma - Sordidman 09:39:28 01/23/15 (8)

Hey, you're free to believe what you want to believe. - Markw* 10:13:31 01/23/15 (7)

You're the dictator, telling everyone that they can't hear - Sordidman 10:46:52 01/23/15 (6)

No, you're the one telling them what they should hear. - Markw* 13:53:08 01/23/15 (5)

Cite it, - copy & paste where I said it... Prove it!! LULZ -t - Sordidman 15:29:32 01/23/15 (4)

Seems you can win $1million by proving you can discern a difference- contact James Randi...go for it! nt - kuribo 16:14:44 01/23/15 (1)

C'mon boys: let's get together for a listening Par-Tay -t - Sordidman 16:38:35 01/23/15 (0)

I'm a BIG believer in power cables NOW!....... - audiophile919 15:53:18 01/23/15 (1)

Well then more power to ya. - Markw* 17:21:43 01/23/15 (0)

Does "I see it" constitute proof? - genungo 09:36:12 01/23/15 (5)

As many illusionists have proven, that's not necessarily so. - Markw* 10:11:48 01/23/15 (3)

RE: As many illusionists have proven - genungo 10:59:47 01/23/15 (1)

"How many illusionists do you think there are, lurking in the shadows waiting to fool us?" - Markw* 17:23:35 01/23/15 (0)

"any many people hear things that aren't so" - Sordidman 10:48:58 01/23/15 (0)

Exactly right...... - Sordidman 09:44:57 01/23/15 (0)

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