It's been two months since I woke up one day in early May of this year (2012) and poof I didn't like classical music anymore. This after it being my favorite style of music for 38 years. I don't understand what happened. It's almost as if my classical gene was turned off overnight and I can't turn it back on. On May 22, 2012 I posted Any other older music listeners enjoying the music of their youth? http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/general/messages/62/623173.htmlI have now played at least parts of all my classical SACDs and computer music files and can now confirm it's not just classical orchestral but also orchestral music from other genres such as pops and movie soundtracks that are now unexplainably unlistenable. I just find it all so boring.
My long time favorite SACD of Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition with Paavo Järvi conducting the Cincinnati Symphony Orchestra now bores me to death. So I decided to give my first version another shot, the Emerson, Lake and Palmer progressive rock arrangement, and in some ways I liked it better and in other ways not so much. If I had liked it more that would have made it full circle since Emerson, Lake and Palmer was one of the rock groups that introduced me to classical music. However I actually prefer Emerson, Lake and Palmer's songs not based on classical music thus I have retired Pictures At An Exhibition from my listening cue for the time being.
I think it's also the style of the music, not just the instruments themselves where my interest has faded away. To me classical music now sounds simplistic, whereas before it sounded a lot more complex, indeed perhaps the most complex of all music. Before classical music sounded meaningful, often exciting and sometimes beautiful but now it just sounds boring.
I love rock, jazz, blues and world music as much as I did the day before this happened. Rock music from the 1960's-1970's is now my favorite musical genre followed by traditional jazz.
There is another possible reason for my orchestral burnout, I have always been very picky about the sonics of orchestral music. This could stem from the fact that I never much cared for the sound of string instruments played with a bow (arco style) and prefer plucking instead (pizzicato). I found bowed violin on CD and 16 bit PCM unlistenable, and only the very finest engineered analog and high resolution digital recordings, made string instruments played arco style somewhat enjoyable. It was the winds, brass and especially percussion instruments that got me interested in classical music back in 1974.
This might explain why my favorite symphony was Johan de Meij's Symphony No. 1 for Band "Lord of the Rings" which has no string instruments. With full orchestra I preferred works that stressed the brass and winds over the strings and had lots of percussion. I listened to my classical music written for winds, brass and percussion and it seems I have lost interest in those as well. On the other hand I still like the violin solos on "Sad Lisa" and "Into White" from Cat Stevens' "Tea For The Tillerman" both played arco style.
I was never cared much for concertos even for wind instruments. Another classical instrument I always had trouble with is the classical guitar. I'm a guitar player and I've played electric, acoustic folk and classical guitar. I like the sound of acoustic folk guitar the best, especially early Martin's, mine is a Samick LW020G dreadnought acoustic guitar. To my ears the classical guitar sounds dull especially the three highest strings which are nylon instead of the steel on the folk and electric guitars. My classical guitar was a Yamaha and it had the same dull sound as classical guitars do in recordings.
How it all began
In 1974 I started experimenting with classical music which never totally displaced my favorite rock, folk and jazz music but I got more and more into it especially the more obscure modern tonal composers.
My first classical LP was called Beethoven's Biggest Hits on an RCA LP I purchased after reading the liner notes to Electric Light Orchestra's ELO II which had the song "Roll over Beethoven" in which Chuck Berry's song was interspaced with excerpts of all of Beethoven's most famous works.
My second classical LP was Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition by Herbert von Karajan conducting the Berlin Philharmonic on a Deutsche Grammophon LP which to me at the time sounded better and much different than Emerson, Lake and Palmer's version. This is what started my Classical adventure.
I never liked Mozart, Haydn, Handel, Bach and most other pre-Romantic era composers. Most of the music I liked was on both sides of this time spectrum, early ancient and medieval dance music and tonal music from the Romantic and later eras. I never liked most chamber music, especially string quartets which I think stemmed from my dislike of string instruments played with a bow as there is no winds, brass or percussion to balance out the string tone. Also I didn't like solo organ or piano music.
I didn't like any type of classical singing and abhorred opera most of all. To me opera sounds unnatural, especially the high sopranos, their nerve-wracking wails sound like they are being tortured to death. To my ears all forms of classical singing sound even worse live in a concert hall. Even when they sing in English it's still hard to understand the words, from research I have done, part of it must be singing from the diaphragm and how they form words with their lips, to my ears it's all very unpleasant. I also abhor singing in broadway and musicals which has some of the same objectionable qualities, although the words can be understood.
Most of my favorite rock, jazz, folk and world music is vocal, so for me instrumental-only classical music was a sharp departure from my preferences in other types of music. This could have contributed to my classical/orchestral gene being turned-off since I love popular singing in every language, my favorites are English, Spanish and French.
Because of so many things I disliked about different styles of classical music, some people claimed I didn't really like classical music but instead was a dabbler in classical music. I fought this designation but now I think it was correct after all.
The first signs of my disenchantment with classical/orchestral music
It actually started about five years ago when I got tired of most symphonies finding them too boring. The few exceptions which I still liked being those of Mahler and a few other composers most of which were written in a programatic style with colorful orchestration. I used to have the patience to wait for the climax but as I got older it seems it takes longer to get there and I didn't enjoy the development as much as I used to.
About a year ago I could no longer stand listening to any Mahler symphony, next I deleted Ravel's Daphnis and Chloe from my hard drive because I could no longer take the little bit of choral singing in it. After that I slowly deleted or sold more and more classical recordings, I would say I got rid of about half of my classical music collection prior to that fateful day two months ago when I woke up and couldn't stand any classical or orchestral music.
When I first started listening to classical music I thought the styles of classical were more varied than other forms, however that is because classical music is derivative from other musical forms, based largely on the country of the composer. So it is not the original or authentic form of said music but a high-art version. As I have got more and more into authentic traditional and pop forms of world music I discovered non-classical music is actually not only more varied but more enjoyable, at least for me.
I like jazz, blues, bluegrass, country, classic rock, modern rock, pop, folk, world music from the folk/traditional/pop/rock genres of Spain, Cuba, Mexico, Latin America, South America, Africa, Ireland and other nations as well as traditional Jewish and Arabian folk music. However I don't like everything in a given genre, I pick and choose.
To sum up I think it's a lost cause for me to enjoy pure orchestral music again, my classical/orchestral gene appears to be permanently off. Losing interest in classical/orchestra music is new to me as in the past if I liked a song or composition I generally liked it the rest of my life.
While I once praised Electric Light Orchestra's ELO II and Emerson, Lake and Palmer's version of Mussorgsky's Pictures At An Exhibition as my induction into classical music, I now recognize them as gateway drugs I now wish I had avoided. I wonder how much more varied my non-classical listening would be if I hadn't spent 38 years exploring classical music. Prior to these two classical inspired rock LPs I abhorred classical music I heard in the music appreciation and composition classes I took in high school. If I had never purchased them I would have happily went on hating classical music. Instead I bought tons of classical LPs I didn't like with a rejection rate of over 90% that I either found atonal or too boring. There wasn't a way to audition music back in the 1970's so I had to gamble based on reviews and what was written on the back of album covers. This was especially true in the town I grew up in, Tulsa, Oklahoma which had no classical music stations, the college station played underground rock, folk, jazz and bluegrass.
Anyone else experience such a shift in musical tastes?
Edits: 07/01/12
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Topic - Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Teresa 01:59:53 07/01/12 (116)
- Check your speakers etc. - richardl 16:05:16 07/30/12 (3)
- Speakers are great! Problem is I never liked strings played with a bow, even live in concert. - Teresa 19:51:19 07/30/12 (1)
- RE: Speakers are great! Problem is I never liked strings played with a bow, even live in concert. - Chazro 13:54:01 08/01/12 (0)
- RE: Check your speakers etc. - jambalaya 16:09:58 07/30/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - magiccarpetride 11:12:52 07/05/12 (1)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Inmate51 16:32:57 07/05/12 (0)
- noise music? - bullethead 18:17:04 07/03/12 (6)
- RE: noise music? - Inmate51 08:34:23 07/05/12 (0)
- I actually like that - josh358 06:26:06 07/04/12 (2)
- RE: I actually like that - bullethead 07:16:52 07/04/12 (1)
- RE: I actually like that - josh358 08:51:40 07/04/12 (0)
- RE: noise music? - sorry that was really awful sounding and - Teresa 00:18:06 07/04/12 (0)
- RE: noise music? - Inmate51 21:25:26 07/03/12 (0)
- You never understood classical music - josh358 17:16:31 07/03/12 (11)
- RE: You never understood classical music - Teresa 18:15:55 07/03/12 (10)
- RE: You never understood classical music - Mali 07:41:36 07/04/12 (1)
- I think the story line helps the composer compose exciting music. - Teresa 20:50:52 07/04/12 (0)
- RE: You never understood classical music - josh358 06:07:55 07/04/12 (7)
- You bring up interesting--even important--concepts, yet your understanding is incomplete, therefore misleading - willkayakforfood 10:11:18 07/04/12 (6)
- RE: You bring up interesting--even important--concepts, yet your understanding is incomplete, therefore misleading - josh358 12:18:27 07/04/12 (5)
- Perfect pitch is a nonsense in the context of equalised temperament - Timbo in Oz 16:12:23 07/05/12 (1)
- RE: Perfect pitch is a nonsense in the context of equalised temperament - josh358 17:02:14 07/05/12 (0)
- RE: You bring up interesting--even important--concepts, yet your understanding is incomplete, therefore misleading - Raymond Leggs 15:55:04 07/04/12 (2)
- Graet work happens in all genres, but the =se are almost universally multimple close mono-miked recordings - Timbo in Oz 16:40:08 07/04/12 (0)
- RE: You bring up interesting--even important--concepts, yet your understanding is incomplete, therefore misleading - josh358 16:27:11 07/04/12 (0)
- A normal migration - panhead 22:38:57 07/02/12 (0)
- Well tell us when you're selling off all your SACDs - flyingdutchman 19:01:50 07/02/12 (2)
- RE: Well tell us when you're selling off all your SACDs - Teresa 19:47:15 07/02/12 (1)
- RE: Well tell us when you're selling off all your SACDs - flyingdutchman 21:28:36 07/02/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Emsquare 14:58:01 07/02/12 (22)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 17:28:34 07/03/12 (15)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Emsquare 18:00:08 07/03/12 (14)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 18:14:24 07/03/12 (13)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Emsquare 21:53:22 07/03/12 (12)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 04:39:56 07/04/12 (11)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - steve.ott@kctcs.edu 16:08:57 07/09/12 (3)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 16:23:17 07/09/12 (2)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Raymond Leggs 12:00:33 07/27/12 (1)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 17:30:40 07/27/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Emsquare 19:03:14 07/04/12 (6)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 06:18:46 07/05/12 (5)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Emsquare 18:12:56 07/05/12 (1)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 18:36:39 07/05/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Inmate51 09:15:20 07/05/12 (2)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Raymond Leggs 14:45:34 07/05/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - josh358 11:29:35 07/05/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - DrChaos 17:41:34 07/02/12 (5)
- Too many things here I agree with! - josh358 17:54:46 07/03/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Emsquare 06:33:00 07/03/12 (1)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Raymond Leggs 08:29:27 07/03/12 (0)
- I'm Still Happy With My Choices (long) - Inmate51 22:42:46 07/02/12 (0)
- Bringing ancient music to life - MichaelV8 18:59:20 07/02/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Land Shark 10:25:48 07/02/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Bill the K 08:53:20 07/02/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - jsm71 06:52:56 07/02/12 (1)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Raymond Leggs 08:51:34 07/02/12 (0)
- never cut down a tree when you're unhappy - LousyTourist 17:29:29 07/01/12 (2)
- Excellent advise! - Teresa 17:33:25 07/01/12 (1)
- RE: Excellent advise! - kerr 16:24:59 07/02/12 (0)
- Depression? - cfraser 17:04:51 07/01/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Todd Krieger 12:47:41 07/01/12 (3)
- " A mild stroke caused it. " - FenderLover 15:06:15 07/01/12 (2)
- RE: " A mild stroke caused it. " - Todd Krieger 18:12:01 07/01/12 (1)
- RE: " A mild stroke caused it. " - josh358 17:21:19 07/03/12 (0)
- Like Peter B, I have temporarily fallen out of love for a particular genre that I have intensively enjoyed and - BillyBenBilly 12:02:24 07/01/12 (0)
- RE: Bizarre twist in musical taste (long) - Peter Breuninger 11:10:51 07/01/12 (0)
- "Anyone else experience such a shift in musical tastes?" - musetap 10:54:44 07/01/12 (0)
- another flip/flop from teresa. - hifitommy 10:51:15 07/01/12 (0)
- Have you recently suffered a blow to the head? * - gme109 09:10:13 07/01/12 (0)
- Music to fit the mood I'm in is important - genungo 09:05:44 07/01/12 (0)
- Excellent, thoughtful essay * - Mike K 08:40:21 07/01/12 (0)
- No surprise. - Kal Rubinson 07:49:48 07/01/12 (23)
- I think you've nailed it, I remember a list Teresa posted - Timbo in Oz 16:46:43 07/01/12 (0)
- RE: No surprise. - middleground 08:14:28 07/01/12 (21)
- Valid commentary to someone who goes publicly and announces: "comic strip rock my boat - cause ALL literature - Eldragon@gmx.com 10:06:21 07/01/12 (0)
- RE: No surprise. - Kal Rubinson 08:59:22 07/01/12 (19)
- RE: No surprise. - middleground 16:19:12 07/01/12 (0)
- RE: No surprise. - JayG 09:34:59 07/01/12 (17)
- You missed my point. - Kal Rubinson 15:12:49 07/01/12 (3)
- RE: You missed my point. - Inmate51 21:00:22 07/02/12 (0)
- RE: You missed my point. - Raymond Leggs 15:40:53 07/01/12 (0)
- Got it. ...... - JayG 15:35:40 07/01/12 (0)
- You sound like a guy who still tear-up while listening to Journey... - Eldragon@gmx.com 09:48:05 07/01/12 (12)
- having a bad day? nt - Analog Scott 11:40:10 07/01/12 (10)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 12:46:24 07/01/12 (9)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Analog Scott 13:18:40 07/01/12 (8)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 13:31:23 07/01/12 (7)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - middleground 16:22:23 07/01/12 (0)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Analog Scott 13:44:41 07/01/12 (5)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 15:55:26 07/01/12 (4)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Analog Scott 09:50:44 07/02/12 (3)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 10:58:06 07/02/12 (2)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Analog Scott 12:04:22 07/02/12 (1)
- RE: having a bad day? nt - Eldragon@gmx.com 12:26:27 07/02/12 (0)
- Don't even know who journey is..... - JayG 10:05:35 07/01/12 (0)
- There is more to classical/baroque than the 'hits' you mentioned - Eldragon@gmx.com 07:47:54 07/01/12 (0)
- Bizarre test for ya... Listen to the 2001 sound track :-) ... - 2chJunkie 06:14:54 07/01/12 (0)
- Your guides have changed. Spirit guides.. whatever one wants to call them.. - Elizabeth 04:21:49 07/01/12 (1)
- Liz, i bet you already like... - hifitommy 10:54:31 07/01/12 (0)
- This is a pretty interesting post, Teresa - jult52 04:13:46 07/01/12 (8)
- Today's audience's “lack of knowledge” is beyond lamentable, it is destructive willful ignorance. - cfb 06:06:32 07/01/12 (7)
- It's Not "Lack of Knowledge" That's the Problem.......... - Todd Krieger 17:39:57 07/03/12 (0)
- The state of affairs - Analog Scott 13:58:28 07/01/12 (4)
- RE: The state of affairs - ahendler 14:48:11 07/01/12 (3)
- RE: The state of affairs - Analog Scott 14:58:21 07/01/12 (2)
- RE: The state of affairs - ahendler 18:25:10 07/01/12 (1)
- RE: The state of affairs - Analog Scott 09:00:17 07/02/12 (0)
- This is not true at all - Kloss 07:23:26 07/01/12 (0)
- my musical epiphany occurred at age 14 - Green Lantern 03:44:13 07/01/12 (0)
- Teresa, you like this ditty? - FenderLover 03:09:48 07/01/12 (6)
- RE: Teresa, you like this ditty? - IEaudiodude 11:21:17 07/01/12 (1)
- RE: Teresa, you like this ditty? - IEaudiodude 11:57:58 07/01/12 (0)
- I like it better than the original but not one of favorite songs from Stand Up - Teresa 03:18:54 07/01/12 (3)
- Well! That does it. Going have to come over one day & play it - FenderLover 04:28:55 07/01/12 (2)
- I'm not very talented, I play guitar for fun. - Teresa 17:30:24 07/01/12 (1)
- RE: I'm not very talented, I play guitar for fun. - FenderLover 01:47:27 07/02/12 (0)