In Reply to: "4. Your system will always sound its worst when other audiophiles come to listen." posted by Todd Krieger on October 19, 2010 at 13:31:49:
The problem is that the sound field is different on different seats in the same venue, as has been shown my measurements:
Meyer, “Directivity of the bowed stringed instruments and its effect on orchestral sound in concert halls”, J. of the Acoustical Society of America 1972, No. 6 (pt 2), p.1994
Takatsu, “Acoustical design and measurement of a circular hall, improving a spatial factor at each seat”, J. of Sound and Vibration 2000, p.263
This fact makes the live reference a moving target. Further, you don't know where the mikes are placed during the recording of e.g. a symphony. Add the fact that loudspeakers radiate very differently as compared to musical instruments. I for one, in view of the above, have put the idea of using live concerts as reference to rest.
Klaus
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- RE: This is why the live reference, attending live concerts, is paramount. - KlausR. 01:06:22 10/20/10 (22)
- RE: This is why the live reference, attending live concerts, is paramount. - Todd Krieger 22:04:49 10/20/10 (20)
- RE: This is why the live reference, attending live concerts, is paramount. - KlausR. 01:46:47 10/21/10 (19)
- Measurements are not equivalent to perception - Tony Lauck 17:31:45 10/22/10 (18)
- RE: Measurements are not equivalent to perception - KlausR. 23:00:32 10/23/10 (17)
- RE: Measurements are not equivalent to perception - josh358 12:50:53 10/24/10 (4)
- RE: Measurements are not equivalent to perception - KlausR. 07:44:35 10/25/10 (3)
- RE: Measurements are not equivalent to perception - josh358 09:31:29 10/25/10 (2)
- RE: Measurements are not equivalent to perception - KlausR. 01:40:24 10/26/10 (1)
- RE: Measurements are not equivalent to perception - josh358 05:36:29 10/26/10 (0)
- Recording orchestras - KlausR. 07:25:08 10/26/10 (0)
- RE: Recording orchestras - josh358 09:17:31 10/26/10 (0)
- RE: Recording orchestras - Ted Smith 09:48:12 10/26/10 (0)
- RE: Recording orchestras - josh358 11:53:46 10/26/10 (0)
- Very interesting, Klaus... - genungo 01:52:48 10/24/10 (11)
- RE: Very interesting, Klaus... - josh358 12:56:12 10/24/10 (0)
- RE: Orchestral-sized events are the worst "live reference" - KlausR. 06:01:36 10/24/10 (9)
- RE: Orchestral-sized events are the worst "live reference" - josh358 12:30:00 10/24/10 (3)
- RE: Toole's theory - KlausR. 07:29:18 10/25/10 (2)
- RE: Toole's theory - josh358 08:29:12 10/25/10 (1)
- RE: it isn't possible to make a loudspeaker ... at that price range - KlausR. 02:34:59 10/26/10 (0)
- RE: it isn't possible to make a loudspeaker ... at that price range - josh358 12:08:02 10/26/10 (0)
- RE: Orchestral-sized events are the worst "live reference" - Tony Lauck 11:15:09 10/24/10 (0)
- Radiation behaviour and personal preferences - genungo 07:22:16 10/24/10 (3)
- RE: different types of loudspeakers specialize in different types of radiation patterns - KlausR. 08:36:36 10/24/10 (2)
- "Radiation patterns of loudspeakers and musical instruments have absolutely nothing in common." - genungo 09:40:44 10/24/10 (1)
- RE: "Radiation patterns of loudspeakers and musical instruments have absolutely nothing in common." - josh358 12:38:52 10/24/10 (0)
- More art than science - Tony Lauck 09:44:19 10/20/10 (0)