In Reply to: RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? posted by AbeCollins on September 10, 2016 at 10:26:07:
You may be correct that I could improve my PC audio set up but it is not too unusual and pretty simple conceptually (USB hard drive containing the music library directly into JRiver MC22) using Win 10 OS ( Achilles heel?).
Yes, I too automatically or magically get track title, artist, cover art etc. from (in my case) DBPoweramp when ripping. However much of it is incorrect particularly in respect of classical music which often has the composer and artist confused. I wish that I really owned some of the recordings that it has suggested. Berlioz himself with the LSO playing the Symphonie Fantastique would be a treasure. Pity he died just before sound recording was invented.
Composer information for popular music often requires manual amendment as it does not reflect label copy and thus cannot be validated easily.
Movement titles, keys and tempo markings are more often correct than not although I suspect that for many recordings most of this field has been populated via some kind of publisher's database. This results in incredibly lengthy listings as the work is described not only in respect of its most common form (e.g. orchestral - a recording of which you have ripped), but also for every alternative instrumental combination approved by the composer. This requires manual amendment to become managable when displayed in the player's fields.
The cover art found is , again, pretty good. The main problem for me relates to where cover art used by one country ( usually USA) is supplied instead of that relating to the UK version that I own. Or (more often) where the cover art suggested is from a more recent box set whereas I have the earlier original single CDs. I would not use cover art for a version that I don't have. So I need to scan the CD art in these cases.
However things do get better over time and I have noticed that a far greater proportion of metadata is correct compared to a year or two back.
My point about information was not really concerned with this basic level. I am really speaking of the notes in the CD booklet which may give a background, historical and/or aesthetic, relating to the work concerned. Or information relating to who the producer and balance engineer were. Or when and where the recording was made. Not only is there none of this supplied when ripping or downloading, there aren't fields to display it in the player software (currently).
My biggest negative point with the metadata formats that currently exist is there seems no field for artist information beyond that of the title artist. So e.g. for jazz recordings with different line ups playing on various tracks there is nowhere to capture or display this information ( except via manual workarounds).
But you use Roon which fascinates me. I understand that this does provide some of this missing information. When I looked at their user forum several months ago there were quite a few complaints from classical music users that the promised information could be missing or incorrect. However this was in Roon's early days and maybe you can tell me if things have imptoved.
My main rservation to date about Roon (and the one that stops me subscribing) is that it really appears to have a main function of integrating the user's own collection with tracks chosen from Tidal. I do not subscribe to any streaming service so this isn't of interest. What would be your opinion on using it just for my locally stored music? NB: I don't have a vast collection. About 2-3K CDs ( and SACDs) of which so far around 500 have been ripped
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- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - PAR 04:18:04 09/11/16 (24)
- Or you could just listen to CDs and enjoy the cover art and liner notes. '-) /nm/ - tketcham 20:18:14 09/11/16 (5)
- RE: Or you could just listen to CDs and enjoy the cover art and liner notes. '-) /nm/ - PAR 15:10:42 09/12/16 (2)
- You can use an Oppo BDP-103/105 instead... - tketcham 17:31:45 09/12/16 (1)
- RE: You can use an Oppo BDP-103/105 instead... - PAR 00:47:27 09/13/16 (0)
- The cover art on my system is on a 65" plasma ;-) - Chris from Lafayette 20:45:21 09/11/16 (1)
- RE: The cover art on my system is on a 65" plasma ;-) - tketcham 20:50:16 09/11/16 (0)
- I admit it: you are SO right about the classical music meta information - Chris from Lafayette 19:06:59 09/11/16 (0)
- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - AbeCollins 17:11:57 09/11/16 (16)
- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - Old Listener 13:31:01 09/12/16 (3)
- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - AbeCollins 14:15:53 09/14/16 (2)
- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - Old Listener 17:40:03 09/14/16 (1)
- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - AbeCollins 15:19:01 09/15/16 (0)
- Yes, nice.......Where.................... - Cut-Throat 05:47:24 09/12/16 (9)
- RE: Yes, nice.......Where.................... - Joey54 17:33:03 09/12/16 (0)
- RE: Yes, nice.......Where.................... - AbeCollins 07:19:52 09/12/16 (7)
- I got it already !!................... - Cut-Throat 13:19:01 09/14/16 (2)
- That was quick! - AbeCollins 14:18:28 09/14/16 (1)
- RE: That was quick! - Cut-Throat 14:23:39 09/14/16 (0)
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- RE: Struck out...... - AbeCollins 11:35:15 09/12/16 (2)
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- Thanks Much ! --- Just Ordered One !.......nt - Cut-Throat 11:53:31 09/12/16 (0)
- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - PAR 04:43:17 09/12/16 (1)
- RE: Are CD Players Even Relevant Anymore? - AbeCollins 07:27:57 09/12/16 (0)