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Re: I want to believe!

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Hi there,

You want to believe? Simply make a set of Jon Risch's or my own DIY Interconnects and Speaker Cables.... Then try for yourself.... Preferably using the testmethode that cannot be mentioned in this Forum....

>>>>Please indulge a few newbie questions. Although I have a graduate degree in music, I have no background in electronics and am simply terrified of cables.<<<<

Don't be terrified. Cables, although some look like large snakes are neither poisenous, nor are they constritors (well maybe to the bank account). At any rate, no cases of Cables biting anyone or swallong small childrens or pet's have been reported. So relax. Cables are perfectly safe.

>>>>1. Are there any published studies (particularly on the web) with proper double-blind procedure to prove that people really can tell the difference between various cables, interconnects, etc.? <<<<

This is a non-subject in this Forum. Please do not use the "D" Word again. However, I know of two British Magazine who engage regulary in testing (using the methode that cannot be mentioned here) of Cables, though for preference and not difference as such. These Are HiFi-Choice and HiFi-News.

These tests (as well as those of electronics) are carried out by People who do have a good deal of Credibility and take care to set up their tests in such a way as to eliminate any sighted prejudice.

Some of the stuff from the HiFi-Choice Cable tests is published on the net (www.hifichoice.co.uk). The German Klang + Ton Magazine (primarily DIY Electronics and Speakers) has also engaged in extensive testing (using the methode that cannot be mentioned here) of many so-called "Voodoo" and "Snake-Oil" things in audio and has found in many (but not all) cases reliably distinguishable differences.

There will be those who will claim that non of these tests have been carried out incorrectly (because they did give positive results where those people obtained negative ones) but I do believe this can be dismissed as "sour grapes".

>>>>I've been told by a number of people (albeit with no proof of their own) that it's all a big sham, so I want to make my mind up the right way.<<<<

There is only one. Try it out for yourself.

>>>>2. Do those here have any recommendations for inexpensive starter cables (particularly speaker cables), or reasonably-priced sources with good return policies?<<<<

Most Dealers will allow you to loan Cables. I would (personally - and that includes my Preferrences) suggest you try Goertz MI2 Cable if your Amplifier will be stable into highly capacitive loads.

Alternatively, I would recommend you try the DIY Cable Recipy I have published for what I call the FFRC....

http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/ffrc_e.html

This Cable, despite some criticism from various sides is meant as a good "allround" Cable, with electrical values (RLC) that promote relatively good performance from a very inexpensive Cable which will be extremely likely to work with any kind of Equipment.

I am the first person to note that it is a compromised design that can be bettered, but the compromise was done on PURPOSE.

>>>>3. What physical process does a cable undergo as it is "breaking-in" and how can this affect the resultant sound?<<<<

That is a good question. I have so far observed major break0in effects with only one specific Cable, that was with a Cardas based Phono Interconnect (Tonearm to Preamp).

All other Cables (commercial or DIY) I ever tried showed very little or no percievable breakin. I have however had some stuff to read from Bob Sireno (Bound for Sound) whoe describes a number of processes on a sub molecular/atomic Level (including Quantum Tunneling) which he attributes to the audbile Breakin Effects....

Given that everytime I try to seirously look into Quantum Physics and the associated Math I get serious headaches, I have to take his word for it.

BTW, I have also up to now found little evidence of directionality in Wire (there is a type of Cable Directionality that is down to the physical construction, but that is another matter), though again, I do not rule out the reality of the effect.

So, nothing from a Guru here.

All I can suggest is that you try for yourself and that you try to use solid-core / litz type Cables as opposed to ones using multistarnded Conductors.

Ciao Thorsten


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